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​chattels: Reidar Visser ‏@reidarvisser 7m7 minutes ago In Friday prayers, #Iraq’s Shia clergy attacks parliament for its “procrastination” on reform policies of PM Abadi www.alliraqnews.com/modul… …


chattels: said the religious authority, “should not take unnecessary care of the constitutional and legal path way by the legislature or other to circumvent the reform steps” www.alliraqnews.com/modul…


chattels: It is not as though the Iraqi Constitution is a ” great work ” or even clear / workable

chattels: Many politicians ” trot out ” the constitution of Iraq when it suits their purposes and ” trash it ” the next time

chattels: Combine the lack of tradition in government in Iraq with a politically influenced Judiciary and you have arguably a political, economic and social nightmare

BOBBY: Chattels. …… question for you if you can….

chattels: Watching the Iraqi Parliament work is like ” watching paint dry ”

chattels: ‹@BOBBY› Yes sir

BOBBY: for lack of better terminology. … who does the buck stop with over there?

chattels: Regret to contradict the pundits who describe Iraq’s progress as ” meteoric ” 🙂

chattels: ‹@BOBBY› Parliament, IMO

BOBBY: what about the religious sector…….. BOBBY: the high clerics and such

chattels: ‹@BOBBY› spend some time ” googling ” parliamentary forms of government for a better understanding of the Iraqi system of government

chattels: ‹@BOBBY› no ” legal ” authority, but great public influence

BOBBY: thanks…..

chattels: Parliament can withdraw confidence from the Prime Minister and change administrations / governments so the executive branch is much weaker in Iraq

chattels: ‹@BOBBY› Perhaps you have heard me to say that Abadi can do little unilaterally and without Parliament

BOBBY: Chattels….. yes…… whats your opinion on his position ?

BOBBY: Chattels. … you have stated that from the beginning as I recall

chattels: Until recently one might describe progress in Iraq as one step forward and two steps back. Today it may admit of two steps forward and one step back.

chattels: ‹@BOBBY› Admirably resolute.

chattels: But perseverance and resolve does not mean success always.

BOBBY: do you feel his party affiliation is a drawback

chattels: If Chalabi was murdered then ………………., well, it will bespeak a terrible dynamic at work.

chattels: ‹@BOBBY› Not per se.

BOBBY: Chattels. …. if he was…….. can anyone really be surprised with the history?

chattels: And to abandon his party label may undermine his support in significant parts of his political base.

chattels: ‹@BOBBY› Surprise or disappointment / concern. Were Chalabi more popular it could galvanize the reform effort. We shall see.

Doug_W: fingers crossed

BOBBY: Chattels. …… thanks for thoughts…. appreciate it!

chattels: Chalabi was a target of assassination before.

chattels: Several of them have been though.

chattels: ‹@BOBBY› my pleasure – wish that I ” knew ” more.

Doug_W: wish U knew the rate N date “C”  lol

BOBBY: seems like a concerted effort against progress in a way

chattels: ‹@Doug_W› indeed, but then someone would have to kill me 🙂

Doug_W: hmmm hopefully this is a little better than Iraq and that won’t happen

chattels: ‹@BOBBY› certain forces depend upon stagnation for their power and control

Doug_W: and a strong arm approach as well “C”

BOBBY: Chattels. …. agreed……. a

BOBBY: DougW….. good point…. the intimidation factor

chattels: Progress / change can be scary and dangerous to many

BOBBY: even when its for the betterment

chattels: it is an age old conflict between light and darkness – there is nothing new or different under the sun in Iraq

chattels: agents for change are often martyred

chattels: crude oil prices rose on Friday, after it fell more than two percent in the previous session. The total US crude futures to $ 45.53 a barrel, up 33 cents from its level at the settlement, while Brent crude rose 27 cents to $ 48.25 a barrel.

However, these gains came after sharp declines in the previous session on rising US crude inventories. Some analysts said that the oversupply will continue to put pressure on the oil markets. The BMI Research Foundation’s [Fitch Ratings] “with high production of major oil producers

The decline in US shale crude production will not be enough to balance the bloated about supply oil market during the next two years.  chattels: www.alliraqnews.com/modul…

chattels: 05/11/2015 12:21 BAGHDAD / National Iraqi News Agency / nina / parliamentary Finance Committee confirmed that the Kurdistan region’s share of the general budget will be conditioned according to export the actual realized and spending of the state rate.

A member of the committee MP Jabbar Abadi, the Iraqi National News Agency / Nina / that “the oil agreement between the federal government and Kurdistan in the current year budget moved himself into the budget next year, 2016.

chattels: He added that” the general budget was built on the grounds that the final outcome of the region’s share will be 17% against the two conditions presidents First, issue 550 000 barrel, and that share will be of the size of the actual spending. ”

chattels: I am now posting most of my military news in the forum as it not preferred reading and seems to conflict with the narrative of many in the chat and elsewhere.

chattels: My views and opinions have not changed, but ………………….. those that want to read such can go to the forum.

Doug_W: BUT I get lost over there so that means I don’t get to read Ur views 🙁

chattels: Budget News Watch Thread : wealthwatch.world/showthr…

chattels: ” Parliamentary Finance: actual spending for next year will not exceed 70 trillion dinars and a share of the Kurdistan conditional. ” www.ninanews.com/News_Det…


Donnie: anymore news on the reduction of the value of the Dinar?


chattels: ‹@Donnie› NOT FROM ME

chattels: ‹@Doug_W› There is good progress militarily, but some ways to go according to the news that I read and assign credibility to.

chattels: What if anything has such to do with our liquidity event, well you know where I stand as opposed to others. That is ” plowed ground “. 🙂

chattels: i will no longer conduct myself in the chat with argumentation on that subject. Apparently each if us has chosen a path and no amount of chatting is going to alter such.

Donnie: even so – i feel you should still post news links even if there is no discussion.

Donnie: many like to read the links

Doug_W: there are those that live to “agitate” others

Donnie: or use the links to read the articles

chattels: ‹@Donnie› I will try to balance information against argumentation.

Donnie: choose to just post and not respond to argumentative remarks from others

chattels: A source in the Prime Minister, the President of the Republic deputies and ministers were dismissed, and they do not exercise any governmental status.

The source said, “The Deputy Prime Minister and Vice-President of the Republic has been dismissed and stop their salaries since last August, and pulled them official offices do not engage in any governmental status in the Iraqi state since dismissed until now not retreat from it,” he said, adding that “any claim otherwise It is contrary to reality. ”

chattels: He stressed, “were actually all three presidencies to reduce the salaries since the issuance of the reduction decision two months ago and pulled thousands protections of them were provided huge amounts of money of the Iraqi state because of it.”

The source pointed out that “the reforms ongoing irreversible,” pointing “No attempts to withdraw the mandate nor the corrupt obstacles can stop the march of reform ” www.alliraqnews.com/modul..



Donnie: LOL WOW

Donnie: “No attempts to withdraw the mandate nor the corrupt obstacles can stop the march of reform “.

BOBBY: sounds like fighting words

chattels: wealthwatch.world/showthr…

Doug_W: Git er DUN Iraq

chattels: ” any claim otherwise It is contrary to reality. ”

chattels: ” ………. reduce the salaries since the issuance of the reduction decision two months ago and pulled thousands protections of them were provided huge amounts of money of the Iraqi state because of it.”


Doug_W: which means NO immunity either

Donnie: big drop from 119 T to only 70 T next year

Doug_W: to me


Doug_W: true   Doug_W: but MUCH more elusive now

chattels: ‹@Doug_W› sorry about the ” caps ”

Doug_W: NP   Doug_W: I am not thin skineed

chattels: ‹@Donnie› a substantial reduction – some say ” critical ”

chattels: My sense is that a real rub may continue to be with the Kurds over money
chattels: the GOI just does not have enough

Donnie: i was just thinking we haven’t heard much from the Kurds yet

Donnie: i see 550,000 barrels is still in there.

chattels: ‹@Donnie› read the MERI conference speeches and other articles

chattels: the Kurdish delegation has not arrived in Baghdad as yet and there is some question of whether they will come without some guarantees

chattels: Qubad Talabani and Nirchevan Barzani have vocalized on the subject

chattels: Maliki yesterday agitating for control of KIrkuk by Baghdad – like throwing gasoline on a fire, IMO

Donnie: lol

chattels: ‹@Donnie› Kurdish lawmakers pessimistic on upcoming Baghdad meeting By Rudaw 3/11/2015 rudaw.net/english/kurdist…


chattels: “A delegation from either the US or the UN could come to the meeting as the third party so that Kurds are not accused of undermining the agreement,” Jaf told Rudaw. She said one of the reasons Kurds supported Abadi’s Cabinet was US and UN insistence.

“The Iraqi government has clearly violated the agreement, now they (the US and UN) should come with us to the meeting, because we already know Baghdad will not abide,” she added.

chattels: With ongoing crises hitting both the Iraqi and Kurdish economies, oil prices remaining relatively low and a refugee crisis becoming more dire as winter sets in across northern parts of the country, officials on both sides seem more willing to compromise now.

chattels: This could implicitly mean that the KRG continues to expand its oil exports through Turkey, cutting into the monopoly of Iraq’s SOMO oil company, while Baghdad increasingly turns a blind eye as it is unable to pay back some $15 billion in overdue wages to the KRG.

Donnie: Baghdad can’t afford to pay KRG so the KRG is going to screw over Baghdad even more…

chattels: 11-6-2015 Newshound Guru Enorrste I believe that Abadi has sold his program to the Parliament and that program is the CBI plan to raise the value of the dinar.

This means that for the first time we have all of the major players on the same page, irrespective of Maliki’s attempt to meddle in the process.

I see forces moving that cannot be stopped easily. Furthermore, if you recall, it was the IMF who insisted that the Investment Law be passed before the end of October, and it was, barely. It was also the IMF that stated unequivocally that Iraq would “enter the world market” in early 2016.

Donnie: that will cause a downward spiral

chattels: 11-6-2015 Newshound Guru Enorrste Therefore, I believe it is reasonable to conclude that, ultimately, this movement is being driven by the IMF and that they, along with the CBI, who are in the same pea pod as the IMF, have sold Abadi on the entire plan.

Now we know that Abadi has sold his “reforms” to Parliament. In short, the ball is moving and I believe it will move quickly. Saleh has already been on record that the beginning of a year is the proper time to make this sort of major advance (the float). To conclude, these reasons bolster my view that we will see the float in early 2016.

chattels: ‹@Donnie› it is sometimes difficult to distinguish between the ” screwer ” and the ” screwee ” 🙂

Donnie: lol LOL so true
Donnie: who screwed who first…  lol

chattels: ‹@Donnie› indeed 🙂

Donnie: does Enorrste have any weight, accuracy tracks in the past?

chattels: ‹@Donnie› More than most, IMO, but the timing and ultimate outcome are yet unknown, so accuracy must necessarily be judged from the rear view mirror

chattels: He does not subscribe to the any day / everyday narrative

Donnie: that’s good

chattels: ‹@Donnie› He and ” Kap ” are usually ” on the same page “.

Donnie: that’s good   Donnie: i like kap

chattels: Duty and the privilege of service to my fellow man are calling – laterz all

Doug_W: be well “C”

TxBrand: I must have slept through something last night… a tree blew over in back yard… JUST A SMALL one in a pot

chattels: Reidar Visser ‏@reidarvisser 15m15 minutes ago Finally, an article on Sunnis that support Assad foreignpolicy.com/2015/11… … Deconstructs simplistic sectarian narratives of #Syria’s conflict.


Donnie: Iraq Live Update ‏@IraqLiveUpdate 3m3 minutes ago Daesh Chlorine gas missiles attacks on Hashed (PMF) picks up!

Doug_W: unbelievable

Stash: where is that red line now

Doug_W: I was CBR Officer in Germany
Doug_W: I have seen first hadn waht chlorine gas can do
Doug_W: what monsters

Doug_W: ok back to my TV show

chattels: Gold price has dropped below 1,100 again. Down 1 1/2 % today at 1,187. goldprice.org/    http://goldprice.org/  chattels: 1,087 *

Stash: XE 1119    Stash: lowest I have seen it

Doug_W: silver is : 14.73

chattels: ‹@Stash› it has been lower

Stash: yes I just had not seen it…