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chattels: ISIS, the Kurds and the Lies We Tell By DAVID ROMANO : ” ………….. the lie that Iraq and Syria are still states. They were never good states, and since some time they ceased being states at all.

Yet somehow everyone continues with the fiction that these imaginary colonial creations are the most sacred of entities. Powerful interests fear the instability that would come with border revisions, but forget that the status quo is not exactly stable either.”

chattels: ISIS, the Kurds and the Lies We Tell By DAVID ROMANO : ” ………….. the lie that Iraq and Syria are still states. They were never good states, and since some time they ceased being states at all.

Yet somehow everyone continues with the fiction that these imaginary colonial creations are the most sacred of entities. Powerful interests fear the instability that would come with border revisions, but forget that the status quo is not exactly stable either.”

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chattels: The recent conflict and killing that occurred recently in Tuz Khurmatu bespeaks the animosity lying just below the surface between the Peshmarga and Shia militias and may foreshadow a civil war between the Erbil and Baghdad which may be awaiting only the end of the war with DAESH. IMO

chattels: Article 140 progress is non existent and impossible with the current conditions in the war against DAESH. The disputed areas and the control thereof are ticking time bombs for an explosion between the Peshmarga and the Shia militias. IMO

chattels: ” Peshmerga: 21 killed or wounded in Khurmatu unrest ” and ” 15 Kurds freed by Hashd al-Shaabi in Khurmatu, Seven other Kurds are waiting to be freed ” were recent headlines.

BOBBY: Good post….. the one about the Kurds in the forum you posted

chattels: trying to remember it ?

BOBBY: The Dave Romano article

chattels: He is a good observer / writer. He and I email one another from time to time.

BOBBY: Chattels. ….. funny thing….. where are all the “isis is not a problem crew” lately?

chattels: ‹@BOBBY› Have you missed them ? 🙂
chattels: May be they moved to France where it is safe, eh ?

BOBBY: Chattels. ……. lol. .. just bummed about the National Geo article lol

chattels: ” the migrating fauna displaced by the heavy rain events are safe from DAESH ” one ?

ladyfox: imo this will take place sometime in Jan to March after them get the 100,000 out . I am writing a 10 page report for my final class graduate 12/19

ladyfox: my friend told me make sure I have some dong, dinar and yuan for the soon coming blessing

Doug_W: I have dong and some Rial too

ladyfox: oh yes that rial too

Doug_W: let the OFFICIAL waiting period begin NOW then

ladyfox: man we are finally here in the right window now, yes LET IT POP

ladyfox: I HAVE AN INTERVIEW WITH WELLS

Doug_W: ‹@ladyfox› Wells Fargo?

ladyfox: 16.95 GETS one yuan from wells today
ladyfox: yes @doug Wells Fargo

Doug_W: well G L then

ladyfox: 😀 depend what the pay is

Doug_W: always  lol

ladyfox: bye work time for me

chattels: good morning all

chattels: Kurds and the vice-Iraqi Forces Union withdraw from the House of Representatives vote on the draft law of the Martyrs Foundation

chattels: According to a parliamentary source told all of Iraq [where] that “the Kurds of Representatives objected to the law and withdrew from the meeting of the failure to include the victims of the Peshmerga and Kurdish forces who were killed after the fall of the city of Mosul in June 2014”.

Doug_W: INclusion ppl Inclusion    Doug_W: wow

chattels: The Iraqi Constitution requires compensation by the government to the families of people killed by terrorism. It appears that the Shia are attempting to exclude a class of people, Kurds, from such compensation related to Mosul. What could be more unfair / unconstitutional ?

Doug_W: sectarinism yet again /STILL

chattels: ‹@Doug_W› Purely identity politics, IMO – nothing to do with the religious essence of being Shia or Sunni

chattels: “the law unfairly being a class martyrs on the political perspective and not on the basis of sacrifice in the defense of the homeland so we withdrew from the voting session.”

Doug_W: it is STUNNING to me how they refuse to cooperate

chattels: “In spite of the withdrawal of Congress forces and other legislators, but he has been to achieve a quorum for the session in the presence of 182 deputies and resume the vote on the draft law” .

Doug_W: SOOO much to be had IF only they would

chattels: No mention of the budget in Parliament today and no vote. Someone be sure to ask ” zeroday ” what Thursday she was / is talking about.

Doug_W: 2nd Thursday of next week “C”

chattels: ERBIL, Kurdistan Region – A Pentagon spokesman said at a press conference Thursday that there would be no ground or air cooperation with Russia in the fight against the Islamic State (ISIS) in Syria.

“We right now have no plans to conduct coordinated operations with the Russians,” said Steve Warren, a US Defense Department spokesman. Speaking to reporters, Warren denigrated Russia’s military capabilities, saying: “The Russians are using dumb bombs.

Their history has been both reckless and irresponsible. You know, I know, there was some discussion that the Russians had a large air armada flying into Raqqa to conduct these operations. And it was notable to us that, you know, those are antiquated tactics. We don’t even use those type of tactics anymore.”

chattels: POLICE: TERROR RINGLEADER BLOWN TO BITS French police confirmed Thursday that the alleged ringleader of the Paris attacks was killed in Wednesday’s siege of an apartment about a mile from the football stadium where the ISIS assault began.

Along with Abdelhamid Abaaoud, 28, police reportedly killed a female, believed to be the cousin of Abaaoud, who blew herself up. Hasna Aitboulahcen, 26, is thought to be Europe’s first female suicide bomber, but analysts say she would have been attempting not to be captured.

chattels: www.thedailybeast.com/che…
http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2015/11/19/mastermind-of-paris-attacks-reported-dead.html?via=newsletter&source=CSAMedition

chattels: Iraq will pay $ 12 billion from the central reserve to oil companies

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chattels: Parliament is adjourned until Saturday.
chattels: Another week in ” dinarland ” done.
chattels: Abadi: Iraq will emerge from the financial crisis stronger

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chattels: But when ?  chattels: bbl

Doug_W: that is the Million dollar question “WHEN” ?
Donnie: Iraq Live Update ‏@IraqLiveUpdate 12m12 minutes ago DIEDs.. Doll IEDs Daesh stuff toys with explosives to kill children walking to Karbala for #ImamHussain #Arbaeen

Donnie: http://wealthwatch.world/blab/attachments/ff7b74e271d9ee408900e3f760392497.jpg

Donnie: Sick people!!!!

Doug_W: what are they doing Donnie?

Donnie: ^^^ “Daesh stuff toys with explosives to kill children walking to Karbala ” ^^^

Doug_W: omg
Doug_W: www.youtube.com/embed/0R8…

US Welfare Pays For 4 Wives Per Muslim Man / Husband
https://www.youtube.com/embed/0R81h6rWgtU

BOBBY: DougW…… morning….. people dont know the half of what is being done to children over there

BOBBY: DougW…… there is very little in this world that phases me…… when it comes to harming children thats different, i don’t care where there at

BOBBY: and anyone who does the harm should be destroyed

Doug_W: I have NO words except total Disgust
Doug_W: and I agree

TxBrand: twitter.com/FoxBusiness/s… 8 Syrians at Texas border taken into custody.
https://twitter.com/FoxBusiness/status/667365666488348672

chattels: Prime Minister’s Office announced Thursday Haider al-Abadi, for a plan to restore stability to the regions of Sinjar, Baiji and Saadia. wealthwatch.world/showthr…

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chattels: I HAVE BEEN ” PREACHING ” THAT STABILITY AND SECURITY REQUIRES MORE THAN JUST THE OUSTER OF DAESH.

ONCE THE LIBERATED AREAS ARE SAFE THERE IS THE COST RESETTLEMENT AND INFRASTRUCTURE WHICH THE IRAQIS APPEAR TO “EXPECT ” OTHERS TO PAY FOR BECAUSE THERE IS LITTLE MONEY IN THEIR BUDGET FOR SUCH.

BUT THERE ARE POLITICAL ISSUES ATTENDANT TO RESETTLEMENT ESPECIALLY IN THE DISPUTED AREAS UNDER ARTICLE 140.

JUST THIS MORNING WE READ THAT THE GOI IS MAKING A DISTINCTION BETWEEN COMPENSABILITY UNDER THE MARTYRS BILL / LAW AS TO KURDS AND OTHERS.

chattels: THE LIBERATED AREAS MUST ALSO BE POLICED / DEFENDED AGAINST THE RETURN OF A HIGHLY MOBILE, CREATIVE AND RESILIENT MILITANT FORCE ( DAESH )

chattels: LAW OF THE MARTYRS FOUNDATION wealthwatch.world/showthr…
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chattels: THE LAWLESS AND MURDEROUS CONDUCT OF MILITIAS IN TUZ KHURMATU RECENTLY HIGHLIGHTS THE HOSTILITY BETWEEN THE PESHMARGA AND THE SHIA MILITIAS AND THE POTENTIAL FOR CIVIL WAR.
Doug_W: HARK….I hear a voice in the Wilderness

chattels: ‹@Doug_W› OFF WITH HIS HEAD AND ON A PLATTER !  🙂

Doug_W: lol
Doug_W: hello OOTW

TxBrand: what hubby ask every day ” are we rich yet ” ..my answer we are the riches people on earth !

Doug_W: tell him to fly in the money Tx

cody661: does any one know how many people are in isis or dash? I heard 20 or 30 thousand at most.

chattels: ‹@cody661› THE INITIAL ESTIMATES WERE THAT NUMBER BUT i HAVE READ AS HIGH AS 80,000

chattels: THEY ARE NOT AMENABLE TO A CENSUS TAKING 🙂

Doug_W: They aren’t Apt to be counted “C”   Doug_W: either

cody661: i remember back in desertstorm the advantage we had was the fact it was mostly desert that we could see every move the Republic garde madeand that was befor the drons

Doug_W: did U ever get to meet General “S” Cody
Doug_W: when I knew him in Vietnam he was a LTC

cody661: no

Doug_W: too bad nice guy

TxBrand: I thinks its all of them ( muslims )… because at the soccer game they yelled allah ——– during a silence for the victims of the Paris attic

Doug_W: SAD they are tought to HATE

TxBrand: ‹@Doug_W› agree
TxBrand: this was people from Turkey

cody661: im perplexed as why we could do so much aganst a 300,000 man army and now we cant do much agist afew radicles and we have even more capabilities!!
cody661: ‹@Doug_W› its only 1tenth of 1 percent that are radicles!the rest are in fear.

chattels: ‹@cody661› MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE TACTICS AND DISPOSITION OF THE ENEMY ARE DIFFERENT. AN AVERSION TO ANY COLLATERAL DAMAGE AND THE ENEMY IS LOCATED AMONGST AND USES THE POPULATION AS A SHIELD

TxBrand: ‹@cody661› this was a stadium of muslims… it much worst than we are lead to beleive

Doug_W: that is my understanding too “C” but I have not been there only heresay
cody661: ‹@chattels› ‹@chattels› im not a military man but when you have drones that can see everything in a desert country for many miles around you deffinatly have the advantage! its like watching ants run around your driveway,you can see every move like shoting fish in a barrel!

TxBrand: it takes a leader,,,, our leader is Standing with the Muslims …. he said it not me

Doug_W: gee I wonder how we really feel Top Shelf

cody661: ‹@Doug_W› i don’t think he is the problem!! theres something different in play and don’t know what!

cody661: all i know is how can isis dash or whoever take oil from the fileleds move over desert and sell it-to whom and how with drones and sattlites watching every move? perplexing to me!!

TxBrand: yeah it seems Muslims are pulling the strings

Doug_W: it is amazing 4 sure

cody661: ‹@TxBrand› don’t paint the all with the same brush!! not right.

Doug_W: ‹@cody661› where as I agree HOW do U sort them out?
Doug_W: till U know 4 sure keep them ALL out

Stash: W could have stopped there supply route a long time ago if O would have just done it…..that crazy……

cody661: ‹@Doug_W› if you done any home work it only takes a handful of people to start a war where millions have nothing to say but have die. ask the germans and the japanes,all those people did not want all that death and destruction! don’t spell check!

Stash: Cody…….Doug has seen war….he has seen death…..I think he knows a lot about about war.

Stash: He was in Vam

cody661: i have to go for a while will be back later but will leave everybody with this to ponder- nobody in this chat room or anywhere in the world want to go out and kill anyone all any of us want is to live our lives and be left a lone work ,have fun and enjoy ourselves just afew would make use want to kill each other and they are the problem!

Stash: I must have a problem because I would have loved to have killed the one that cut our peoples heads off

Doug_W: me TOO Stash and I thought I didn’t ever wanna see death again

chattels: Citing the newspaper (Orient) Abdul Basit Turki: the dollar will jump to 2,000 dinars unless the government take bold action to address the financial crisis November 19, 2015

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chattels: Courtesy of Butfldrmr

TxBrand: Isis Storm on tonight…history channel

Doug_W: what time?

TxBrand: ‹@Doug_W› they said ten… so im guess 9 for us

Doug_W: ty

TxBrand: ill check at 8

Doug_W: too late 4 me then

chattels: Norway provides $ 1.8 million to support the stability of the liberated areas in Iraq

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chattels: The International Energy: Iraq world’s fastest growing oil production

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chattels: ” Industry experts predicted that Iraq is increasing its production of oil in 2016 albeit in less dramatic this year, making it the battle of market share raging between OPEC member countries and its competitors from outside, a battle that was forced because of Baghdad to sell some crude types at a price low up to $ 30 a barrel.”

chattels: Defense Minister: edit Nineveh pivotal battle in the history of Iraq Defense Minister Khaled al-Obeidi, said the Aaracah forces will play a “pivotal battle in the history of Iraq, the liberalization of Nineveh province,” Daash of the terrorist gangs that control the city of Mosul, the provincial capital since the summer of 2014 said.

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