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disciple7: XE: IQD 1105

OOTW: wealthwatch.world/showthr… Urgent Turkey withdraw its troops from the borders of Iraq and keep the other camp   http://wealthwatch.world/showthread.php?tid=3215

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chattels: ‹@Doug_W› and answered to it , eh ? 🙂

chattels: the parliamentary finance committee member Husam punitive reported that “the federal budget bill will pass during the next two weeks.”  chattels: wealthwatch.world/showthr…

http://wealthwatch.world/showthread.php?tid=2814&pid=7700#pid7700

chattels: Caveat : Still no word from the Kurdish delegation

OOTW: TRUE, DEFINITELY NOTHING AT KRG SITE

chattels: Remember at last report the ” amended budget ” approved by the COM had not been delivered to Parliament

chattels: Joel Wing ‏@JoelWing2 1h1 hour ago Sadr only Shiite leader to say members of his Hashd are acting badly & trying to keep them in check english.shafaaq.com/polit… …

http://english.shafaaq.com/politics/16907-sadr-expels-12-elements-from-the-sadrist-movement-in-diyala-and-vows-for-punishment.html

chattels: Joel Wing ‏@JoelWing2 Groups like Badr complain US not doing enough in Iraq but then say they support IS & threaten to attack Americans if do get more involved

chattels: Market rate holding at 1,214   chattels: www.cbi.iq/documents/C.B….

http://www.cbi.iq/documents/C.B.I.%20FOREIGN%20EXCHANGE.pdf

chattels: Oil falls to its lowest level in 2015 due to the OPEC meeting and the rise of the dollar www.alliraqnews.com/modul…

http://www.alliraqnews.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=23372

chattels: it is the city of Yakutsk, which lies north-east of Russia, the coldest city on earth, and it reached the rank of [- 63 ° C], and winters up to 8 months of the year.chattels: www.alliraqnews.com/modul…
http://www.alliraqnews.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=23373

chattels: Kurdistan KRG requests Russia avoid Kurdish airspace for Syria missions By Rudaw 9 hours ago – – ERBIL, Kurdistan Region — Kareem Sinjari, the interior minister of the Kurdistan Regional Government (KRG), met with Russian Consul General to Erbil Victor Simakov on Monday to hold talks regarding Kurdistan suspending flights at the Erbil and Sulaimani airports as Russian jets fly over the region on missions to Syria.

Sinjari reportedly asked Simakov to request Moscow find an alternate route for its aircraft and cruise missiles that avoids using the Kurdistan region’s airspace.

OOTW: I HAVE SO MUCH RESPECT AND GRATITUDE TOWARDS STRUAN STEVENSON…HERE’S A QUOTE FROM A RECENT SPEECH OF HIS

“Mr President, Ladies and Gentlemen, my dear Iraqi brothers and sisters, we were greatly encouraged when Haider al-Abadi became Prime Minister and spoke of the need for reforms. But we need to see these reforms in action. I am very concerned about the fate of Iraq.

Daesh has to be defeated but we have to make sure that the Iranian regime does not exploit this conflict to advance its destructive influence. Iran is not part of the solution, it has been a source of the problem in both Iraq and Syria for years.”  OOTW: wealthwatch.world/showthr…
http://wealthwatch.world/showthread.php?tid=3214&pid=7704#pid7704

chattels: ERBIL, Kurdistan Region – The Islamic State group (ISIS) earns $80 million a month from taxing people living under its rule, and from confiscating property, drug smuggling and oil sales, according to a new analysis released Monday by global think tank IHS.

It said that 50 percent of the militant group’s income comes from taxation and confiscation, and around 43 percent from oil, drug smuggling, selling electricity and receiving donations.

chattels: I have lately posted some news in the chat without a link because i did not post it in the forum. If you want a link than ask and I will provide. I am sometimes limited during the day as to what I can post in the forum.

chattels: OOTW has requested that all news posts in the chat have a forum link.
chattels: And not an outside link  chattels: I am trying to comply with that request.
chattels: Usually such news posts without a link are more interesting factoid than important news

OOTW: I’M NOT GOING TO BE A NAZI ABOUT IT..LOL..AND I APPRECIATE ALL OF YOUR POSTS..I SIMPLY ASK THAT THE MAJORITY OF WHAT IS POSTED IN CHAT CO-RELATES TO THE FORUM

chattels: Kurdish tolerance thrives as sectarianism plagues the region
chattels: rudaw.net/english/opinion…  http://rudaw.net/english/opinion/07122015

chattels: ‹@OOTW› excellent 🙂

OOTW: The former prime minister should have been arrested immediately upon vacating his seat. He should have been indicted, if not by the Iraqi government then by the International Criminal Court. Critics contend that Maliki is not only guilty of mismanagement and corruption, and the disappearance of 500 billion dollars, under his rule, but that he is also guilty of human rights abuses, owing to his support of Shi’ite militias and his contribution to attacks against enemies of the Iranian regime inside his country.

Indeed, the case against Maliki surely continues to grow. Despite technically being out of government, he continues to wield considerable influence and to use his stolen money for the funding of a private army.

It is already clear that Maliki either willfully ignored or personally ordered six attacks on the Iranian dissident communities of Camp Ashraf and Camp Liberty, members of the People’s Mojahdein Organization of Iran (PMOI/MEK) during his term in office.

And it may yet also become clear that his sectarian forces had a role in the seventh, which took place just at the end of October and brought the total death toll to 140. The plight of the 2,200 asylum-seekers at Camp Liberty goes to show that mere awareness of the persistent instability in the Middle East is doing nothing to alleviate it.

Even in the midst of public advocacy on those people’s behalf from senior American and European policymakers, the Iraqi government and the Iran-backed militias have consistently stepped up their repression of the camp. Even after the latest attack, the residents have been barred from receiving shipments of food, medical equipment, and materials for rebuilding.
OOTW: These and other activities in the region will almost certainly continue unabated as long as the people who are most responsible for them face no consequences for their actions.

If Camp Liberty is to be protected, if ISIS is to be defeated, and if sectarian conflict in general is to be undermined, Nouri al-Maliki must be held to account.

This would at once address several recent problems in Western nations’ Middle East policies. It would make an example of Maliki in the face of other tyrants and sectarian forces. It would help to eliminate his lingering destructive influence.

And it would serve as a first step toward a set of policies that deal more appropriately and more harshly with other contributors to the problems of the region, including Syria’s Assad and Iranian Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei.  OOTW: wealthwatch.world/showthr…
http://wealthwatch.world/showthread.php?tid=3214&pid=7705#pid7705

 

chattels: ” Despite technically being out of government, he continues to wield considerable influence and to use his stolen money for the funding of a private army.”
chattels: ” GONE, DONE AND / OR TOAST ” ?, eh ?

chattels: I doubt that Mr. Maliki has any favorable influence upon Mr. Stevenson, so presumably the foregoing ” news ” is credible according to some critics of the news.

chattels: 12-7-2015 Intel/Newshound Guru tman23 Certainly Iraq must make changes… But with the kidnappings etc…etc… You have to ask yourself…How fast can they open a market economy and build infrastructure without foreign labor?

Because right now skilled foreign workers are not going to flock to Iraq. Abadi needs to deliver something big…bigger then austerity and broken promises. Quite frankly he needs to pull a rabbit out of his arse at this point.

chattels: Finally a ” good sense ” and reality post from someone at XXXX
chattels: Sounds like ” magic ” to me though, ……………………………
chattels: the rabbit out of the southern posterior that is 🙂

chattels: Kurdish tolerance thrives as sectarianism plagues the region

chattels: ” ………… granting their women complete emancipation: Everything from equal labour and wage rights to that of their male counterparts to having an equal say in a court of law (unlike in some Islamic countries where under the law a man’s word is worth that of two women) along with equal inheritance rights. ”

chattels: ” Iraq’s Kurdish region recently welcomed the ancestors of Kurdish Jews who had been deported, following the foundation of the State of Israel, by the central government in Baghdad about 70 years ago and has made a point of recognizing and valuing their contributions to that region. ”

chattels: ” Similarly Shia Muslims in Kurdistan, while a minority there as opposed to the rest of Iraq, can freely mark the Day of Ashura in accordance with their sects beliefs (one of the differences between the Sunni and Shia beliefs about the early history of Islam stems from conflicting beliefs over what that date represents and how it should be remembered which has led to many disagreements and violent sectarian clashes in places) without fear that the government or the wider society will attempt to suppress them. ”

chattels: ” Civilization and freedom do not always triumph over savagery and tyranny by their superior merit alone. That’s an overly simplistic and romanticized, as well as often ahistorical, fallacy. However in the case of the Kurds against ISIS civilization and freedom are winning the day. Which is the fundamental reason the Kurds should be supported unwaveringly until the very end. ”

chattels: wealthwatch.world/showthr… http://wealthwatch.world/showthread.php?tid=3220

chattels: My Kurdish sympathies are well known.

chattels: Consider donating to UNHCR this season. This is the biggest humanitarian emergency of our era and millions of children, women and men are now facing a bitter winter ahead. donate.unhcr.org/internat…http://donate.unhcr.org/international/general

chattels: MP Majda al-Tamimi describes the 2016 budget as “delusional and unrealistic” 06/12/2015 15:46 BAGHDAD / National Iraqi News Agency / nina / labeled a member of the parliamentary finance committee Majida al-Tamimi budget in 2016 as “bogus and unrealistic”, proposed steps to reduce the shortfall in them.

chattels: ” The budget is very inflated and not commensurate with Iraq’s current situation,…”

chattels: …………… ,” that the 2016 budget fake and unrealistic, and is built on two assumptions Khatitin are the price of a barrel of oil and the quantities of export “, ………

chattels: ………… called on al-Tamimi to” take a number of steps to reduce the deficit and the budget becomes more realistic, and those steps Cancel auction currency at the central bank so that import through the credits, and to reconsider the rounds of licenses become as oil companies expressed their willingness to modify some of the paragraphs that caused wasting money significantly,

and the development of orderly and uncluttered collection system to reduce the money going into the pockets of corrupt , in addition to reducing spending because there are a lot of unjustified expenses and exaggerated “.

chattels: ” ……….. Cancel auction currency at the central bank so that import through the credits, ……… ”
chattels: wealthwatch.world/showthr…
http://wealthwatch.world/showthread.php?tid=2814&pid=7708#pid7708

chattels: bogus, delusional and unrealistic, ………………….. sounds like my assessment of the dinar pundit predictions

chattels: bogus, delusional and unrealistic, ………………….. sounds like my assessment of the dinar pundit predictions

chattels: “The statement said that the Iraqi Central Bank to continue buying and selling dollars at 1166 dinars, noting The selling price of remittances in 1187 dinars to the dollar, including the commission and the Central Bank of 21 dinars per dollar, with total cash sales price of 1190 dinars to the dollar against the dollar, including the commission of the Central Bank of $ 24 dinars per dollar. www.ninanews.com/News_Det…

http://www.ninanews.com/News_Details.aspx?BOAMAYqGlYpxpbYyFYZA7%252fWqFF77V0lMEg%252bpqmXPKv8%253d

chattels: 1190 x’s 2 % is 23.8
chattels: 1190 + 23.8 = 1113.8

Stash: 1213.8
chattels: Market rate has been 1214 since December 1
chattels: ‹@Stash› ty

Stash: Lol
chattels: So it appears that the 2% is variance is being met.

chattels: ‹@Stash› 🙂
chattels: The text is somewhat cryptic though. Do the numbers match ?
chattels: Remittance sales is a different number from dollar against dollar

chattels: 1187 x’s 2% = 23.74
chattels: 1187 + 23.74 = 1210.74

chattels: interesting

Stash: What u think?
chattels: On November 24 the Market price was a low as 1210
chattels: ‹@Stash› I think that my thinking is dangerous to myself and others 🙂

Stash: Lol

chattels: Thankfully I am not compelled to make predictions
chattels: only observations 🙂
chattels: wealthwatch.world/showthr…
http://wealthwatch.world/showthread.php?tid=3221&pid=7709#pid7709

chattels: ‹@Stash› I left out the dialogue with your correction on my math 🙂

chattels: General Amnesty Law: parliamentary objections threaten legislation wealthwatch.world/showthr… http://wealthwatch.world/showthread.php?tid=3222

chattels: The House of Representatives has postponed a draft of the amnesty law until further notice after ending its first reading in the month of May, to the continuing political differences before returning the presidency of parliament and end the second reading of the draft of the controversial law the middle of last month.

Donnie: Iraq Live Update ‏@IraqLiveUpdate 2h2 hours ago Hashed Al-Sha’abi: If Turkish forces do not leave Iraqi lands, all options are on the table for us to respond #Iraq

Donnie: Iraq Live Update ‏@IraqLiveUpdate 1h1 hour ago Iraq PM Abadi told Iraqi #AirForce to be at ‘full readiness’ to defend Iraq and the sovereignty of Iraq

disciple7: XE 1104

Donnie: ‹@disciple7› 1103 too high 🙂

Donnie: Iraq Live Update ‏@IraqLiveUpdate 57m57 minutes ago Hashed leadership: Any foreign force on Iraqi land is rejected, we consider it an act of aggression #TurkishInvasion

BOBBY: Question…… How will relations with Iraq be effected if we send troops in??

chattels: ‹@BOBBY› disastrous, IMO
chattels: Abadi has said no and his Shia opponents would seek a vote of no confidence, IMO

BOBBY: not a good scenario

chattels: Ameri, leader of the Hash’d militias, has promised to fight any American ground forces
chattels: or threatened

BOBBY: its a mess waiting to happen
BOBBY: sorry for all the non happy talk ..lol

chattels: Groups like Badr complain US not doing enough in Iraq but then say they support IS & threaten to attack Americans if do get more involved

chattels: Kirk H. Sowell ‏@UticaRisk 20h20 hours ago Kirk H. Sowell Retweeted Methaq Al -fayydh This would be an escalation: Badr’s original statement did not expressly threaten attacks on US targets.

chattels: The Pentagon still hasn’t cleared with Baghdad that new Special Ops force that Abadi says Iraq doesn’t want or need mobile.reuters.com/articl… …
http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN0TN2MW20151204

chattels: Kirk H. Sowell ‏@UticaRisk Dec 4 Any large-scale US presence would lead to a new direct war with Shia militias. Not supported by any Arab party. Not even one. @thehill

chattels: Kirk H. Sowell ‏@UticaRisk Dec 4 Need to reiterate what a disaster it would be to deploy US combat troops to Iraq. thehill.com/policy/defens… … @thehill @TheStudyofWar
http://thehill.com/policy/defense/262119-ernst-co-sponsors-new-isis-war-authorization-measure

chattels: ” …….. a disaster it would be to deploy US combat troops to Iraq.”

BOBBY: sounds like a lose / lose situation all around

chattels: Kirk H. Sowell ‏@UticaRisk Nov 30 /7 Even Abadi’s current ties to the US are very controversial. A larger US force would wreck Abadi politically, not to mention Gulf Sunnis.

chattels: ” ………. Abadi’s current ties to the US are very controversial. A larger US force would wreck Abadi politically, ……… ”

BOBBY: never a dull moment with this

Donnie: Iraq Live Update ‏@IraqLiveUpdate 3h3 hours ago Hashed leadership: Any foreign force on Iraqi land is rejected, we consider it an act of aggression #TurkishInvasion

Donnie: Iraq Live Update ‏@IraqLiveUpdate 5h5 hours ago Hashed Al-Sha’abi: If Turkish forces do not leave Iraqi lands, all options are on the table for us to respond #Iraq

Donnie: Iraq Live Update ‏@IraqLiveUpdate 5h5 hours ago Iraq PM Abadi told Iraqi #AirForce to be at ‘full readiness’ to defend Iraq and the sovereignty of Iraq

Donnie: getting nasty over there.
Donnie: Seems turkey has made a few enemies over there…. Iraq, kurdistan, Russia

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