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Zig’s Place Chat Room Discussion and News Monday 8-31-20

Spectra   The Best States to Live in and Move to (if You’re Contemplating a Mass Exodus from Your State)

Spectra   let’s face it, if there’s one thing that 2020 has made us re-evaluate, it’s where we are living. We saw states that we thought stood for freedom shut down, state governors sell out their residents and become total dictators, businesses forced to close, the muzzle replace several state flags, freedoms become restricted or altogether disappear, and legislators on a power trip use our inability to gather to their advantage — pushing through legislation that would otherwise never have passed.

Add to that the riots, “new normal,” ridiculous changes to our educational system, cancel culture, and covert infringements upon our second amendment rights and it’s no wonder all of us who are “woke” and see Covid19 “version 2.0” (coming to a fall near you) are wrestling with whether we should stay and fight or make it to better ground while we can.

Spectra  Ranking States from Best to Worst

If you’re confused about whether you should stay or leave your state, look no further than the first ever (best ever) list ranking states from best to worst using the criteria that are most important to parents who value their rights, freedoms, and a natural healthy lifestyle.

These criteria include: vaccine exemptions, homeschooling regulations, second amendment, political ideology (which tells you a lot about how a state is run and the type of agenda and policies you can expect to deal with), governor approval rating, covid19 response, personal reviews, and cost of living.

A large group was then polled to see how these criteria ranked in importance. Numbers from 1 to 10 (with 10 being the best) were ascribed to the chosen criteria for each state, and then the automated spreadsheet ranked states first via their raw score and then via importance.

For example, people polled stated that the second amendment was super important to them, so a state could score high in every area, but if it scored a “2” under the second amendment category, it was going to drop in the rankings. Make sense?

Spectra   Under each state, you’ll see the big pros and cons, as well as the “raw score” where you can look and see how each criteria scored, which may help you in choosing a state that ranks highly in the areas that are most important to you.

If you’re wondering whether you should stay or go, where you can find your people, or where you’ll be able to safely weather out whatever crazy conspiracy deep state plot is going on behind the scenes to remove your freedoms, this list is for you.

Spectra   Many people are moving due to this insane ideology


Zig    Spectra : Or live on your yacht after you get rich

Spectra   but then you wil be living on maritime law ..

Spectra   Big Shift Coming! Cashierless Stores Popping Up at Gas Stations, Stadiums and Even Dunkin’-Pretty soon you might find Amazon Go-like concepts just about everywhere.

Mastercard on Friday said it’s joining the effort to create more of these kinds of cashierless stores, unveiling a platform it calls Shop Anywhere. It teamed up with retail tech company Accel Robotics to create a handful of new test concepts that let customers check into a store, grab what they want and walk out.

Spectra  https://www.cnet.com/news/cashierless-stores-are-popping-up-at-gas-stations-stadiums-and-even-dunkin/

Spectra   New wORLD oRDER   OR Nephilim world order lol

Stephen   So been around a long time. Since Steve Irwin passed away (PEOPLES DINAR)…Crazy roller coaster ride . My first post in a couple years. Even listen to FRANK sometimes. Seems pretty well organized with his peeps. Kinda like his eccentricities. Anything to get away from Mtn Goat, talk about pot calling kettle black, glad I ain’t married to her or whatever that denomination is, lol. Well thanks for the room and some place to vent. I first bought from TD Bank way back in 05 I think it was. Gave most of it away as gift already. So to say hello from NH’   Hello

John Frank has stated  KIM CLEMENT PROPHECY ABOUT DINAR: KIM CLEMENT:  This is for you.

The tide is turning for you.  Very strange thing shall happen in September.  Watch how the rain comes to America.  Watch how the rain comes to my kingdom.  For God says beginning in September I’ll turn everything around.  And my people shall see an intervention of a kind that they have never seen before.

Tebow  Dinar Investor – Baghdad: Al Furat News Proposed 3 year budget with Kurds. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOosWe4IQfE

Sheila  One man’s opinion: (8/30) OMG THE LAST DELAY! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOosWe4IQfE

Sheila  Baltic Dry Index https://www.bloomberg.com/quote/BDIY:IND

John Frank has stated   yesterday a wreck announced they’re going to approve a three-year budget that means the rate will stay in the same range for that period of three years.

John Frank has stated  Do you guys think that’s a one dollar range or three dollar range for the next three years. Remember they do have to hit the ground running to play catch-up because the value of oil has been down.

xyz  8-31-2020 Newshound Guru Hammerman There are still some who believe a significant overnight RV is possible. I have two articles that contradict the possibility of that ever happening…Iraq’s net worth is only $16 trillion dollars.

xyz  8-31-2020 Guest Guru Austin-Powers-For-PM …I believe September will be an unbelievable month for all of us. What that looks like or how that will happen is yet to be seen…

Sheila  Question: If it doesn’t happen like flipping a switch from program rate to international market rate, then how will it happen?

Spectra  Economy pevails.

Sheila  I worked a while doing software updates. When we loaded those updates, they were instantly seen across the system (less than 6 seconds). Or are you just really talking about rates?

Spectra  FANTASTIC ‘tell us more

Sheila  Nothing more to tell. I am wondering how all these people say it won’t happen “overnight” (or instantly). Then how will it happen?

Spectra  Then Let them explain . Thus for me I’ve seen to many years of this.  The speculation game is over for me

Sheila  cracks in a dam – time and pressure. law of physics cannot be denied. lolol

Sheila  Is this goodbye?

Spectra  goodbye as what do you mean? I was just saying i have nothing to actually add in as far as the conversation regarding the dinar.

Spectra  just wait someone will jump in

Sheila  okay, misunderstood your comment

Spectra  no problem

Tebow  How can they Iraq change wages, prices for goods, contracts, on a daily ever changing gradual rate change.

Sheila  https://www.nytimes.com/1991/03/25/world/after-the-war-no-electricity-but-kuwait-reopens-its-banks.html

Spectra  My husband was in Iraq .Yes that did happen..The sudden change back to what it was

UNEEK  sheila Spectra Good Morning – I really do not have any verifiable intel but I still CHOOSE to be here and read all that is made available and watch and hope – simple –

Sheila  Me, too. hopeful. happy to be alive. each day is good day.  free will

Spectra  yes everyday is one to value

UNEEK  I will say it does kinda bother me to hear all the bashing from those who never read anything or contribute anything

Spectra   I use too post ton’s of Articles..in the other chat room but few people read…Now i let other people

Sheila  agree. free speech – even the bad stuff. pendulum swings both ways. good and bad.

Spectra  Yes but we are loosing that free speech as we speak we already have on the internet..

sheila  guess we have to get wise and find those loop holes.

Spectra   or stand up to it\and fight for those freedoms

Spectra  That is what i believe is needed..complacency kills, look at the German people …They went through much similar things like us as far as the economy! Then look at how desperate they got.They went along with all the horrible things H did because they were afraid and complacent .

Spectra   (((Dinar Dinar Dinar)))) i wonder how many are really worthy of such a great fortune if it was to change for the better? They speak of doing great things with this overnight sensation…Yet how many do great things now? Why wait ?

Spectra   Gifts of Love and Caring do not always cost you money.You can do great things and they pnly cost you your time…Too many fake people in the world . Especially in this community.Yes there are decent people but not all.

Sheila  One man’s opinion: (8/30) IRAQ DINAR: THE TRUTH — https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jtsmCV8eaw

Spectra   sheila What i know about my own personal exsperiences with the dinar ..I will tell .Many people know my story  I can tell 1 thing My husband had a inside tip  tHAT IS ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW

Sheila  Spectra wonderful for you. now it’s just about the waiting.

Spectra  waiting ? sure.i guess there is no other thing you can do..Have fun waiting  ive waited since 2003

xyz  Erbil confirms its readiness to conduct the census and sets a condition regarding the disputed areas

An official at the Ministry of Planning of the Kurdistan government confirmed, Monday (August 31, 2020) that the region is ready to conduct a census, while setting a condition regarding the disputed areas between the governments of Baghdad and Erbil.

The Director General of Statistics at the Ministry, Sirwan Muhammad, said in an interview with (Baghdad Today). That “the time is not suitable for conducting a general census of the population in Iraq.”

He added, “We have continuous communication and discussions with the Federal Ministry of Planning, and on our part in the region, we have full preparations for conducting the census.”

Muhammad explained, “The problem is in the disputed areas between Baghdad and Erbil, and these areas need to arrange the situation in terms of security and administration in order to ensure a transparent census and accurate numbers, so it is better to wait a little while until the conditions of these areas stabilize and the problems around them are resolved.”

And the Minister of Planning, Khaled Battal Al-Najm, announced, earlier, that the Higher Authority for the General Population and Housing Census had submitted a recommendation to the Council of Ministers, to postpone the implementation date of the census, which was scheduled for November of this year, to the last quarter of next year 2021.

And the Ministry of Planning media stated in a statement received (Baghdad today) that the minister, during his presidency of the fourth meeting of the commission that was held last Sunday, said that “the recommendation to postpone the census came because of the exceptional circumstances that Iraq is going through, represented by the Corona pandemic and the financial crisis.”

The minister pointed out that “the High Authority for the Census decided to continue the preparation and preparation work for the

Sheila  thank you, I have and will continue. Just decided that’s the way it’s going to be for me. To each his own.

xyz  The minister pointed out that “the High Authority for the Census decided to continue the preparation and preparation work for the project, and to request the Ministry of Finance to secure the required financial allocations for the requirements of the census, which include securing tablets for the implementation of the census electronically, as well as training enumerators, and implementing the pilot census and the numbering and counting operations All the way to counting day link


xyz  Washington unveils anticipated Iraqi-American “meetings” to deal with the trade and investment files


On Monday, the US ambassador to Baghdad, Matthew Toller, considered that Prime Minister Mustafa Al-Kazemi’s visit to Washington had given great impetus to the relationship between the two countries, and while he confirmed that his country was ready to cooperate with Iraq regarding economic reform, he revealed upcoming Iraqi-American “meetings” that deal with trade and investment files.

Tueller said in a telephone interview with a number of media outlets, including Alsumaria News, “Al-Kazemi’s meetings are in Washington It is an extension of what was held on June 11 hypothetically, and we believe that the fact of the meetings shows the seriousness of both countries about the strength of the relationship between them.

He added, “Unnatural challenges facing an economy Iraq Because of Corona and the economic crisis, especially that the Iraqi economy is centralized and unable to attract foreign investment, “noting that” Al-Kazemi and Iraqi officials have shown their vision for economic reform and America has shown its willingness to cooperate with Iraq In these efforts.”

He continued,” in addition to the encounters Washington There will be trade and investment meetings to improve the environment for foreign companies to invest in Iraq And we have signed an agreement for e-government, financial reform, expanding partnership in trade, and promoting and strengthening trade between the two countries. ”

He expressed his hope that “the Iraqi parliament will not reject the signed agreements because they serve the common interests in the relationship between the two countries,” adding that “the strategic framework agreement was ratified by the Iraqi parliament in 2008 and is in effect as a law and any agreements we make within this agreement, and we believe that everything we have done.” At this stage, it is consistent with the spirit of the strategies

xyz  He expressed his hope that “the Iraqi parliament will not reject the signed agreements because they serve the common interests in the relationship between the two countries,” adding that “the strategic framework agreement was ratified by the Iraqi parliament in 2008 and is in effect as a law and any agreements we make within this agreement, and we believe that everything we have done.” At this stage, it is consistent with the spirit of the strategic agreement.”   LINK

xyz  Corruption begins with the criminal Nouri al-Maliki .. Can you investigate him? Al-Kazemi forms a committee to combat corruption

Observers: Al-Kazemi’s problem is that he opens all files at once, and the movements are purely media. The problem of Prime Minister Mustafa al-Kazemi is that he is dispersed and does not want to focus on a single file to complete and present it to the Iraqi public opinion.

He wants to move in all files, and this is good, as the Iraqis say, but he needs governmental effort and decisions on the ground. It is not an informative appearance, opening all files at once and talking in them.

The Iraqis know their issues well, and are fully following them up in various websites, newspapers and forums .. However, the government’s role stands at the limits of action and implementation to eliminate problems.

During the last hours, Al-Kazemi announced the formation of a committee with wide powers to combat Al-Fasa, which is an incurable disease in Iraq and the cause of which is the men of Iran and Iran’s militias.  LINK

Sheila  @xyz thank you for these articles. will take some time today to read.

Zig  xyz Thanks…Not enough people thank you for doing that…it does take time and effort to find and post articles….appreciate it….. :Yes:

Zig  “John Frank has stated t”……Yesterday Iraq announced they’re going to approve a three-year budget that means the rate will stay in the same range for that period of three years…

“Do you guys think that’s a one dollar range or three dollar range for the next three years? Remember they do have to hit the ground running to play catch-up because the value of oil has been down.”

Zig  John Frank has stated : I would be thrilled with any rate over 25 cents….honestly…..

Sheila  Still waiting to hear from those adamant that this won’t happen overnight. Please explain how they perceive revaluation of dinar forex trading rate will happen. Waiting.

Zig  sheila : I don’t care HOW it happens, just that it does….lol  RV…RI…Float….WHATEVER

Sheila  Zig Agree.

xyz  Two delegations from the Kurdistan Regional Government arrive in Baghdad

Shafaq News / Samir Hawrami, spokesman for the Deputy Prime Minister of Kurdistan Region, Qubad Talabani announced on Sunday that a committee from the Ministry of Peshmerga has arrived in the Iraqi capital, Baghdad, to discuss two files.    LINK

Zig   FYI: This chat room stands alone…i.e. it is not located on any website which would automatically make it have more “traffic” and most likely more active, but not necessarily…That is because only about 5% of those who visit a chat will ever post…I know that from experience….It gets some exposure on Dinar Recaps and I posted about it at Dinar Daily….I have also sent out many emails about it….but my recruiting efforts are over….

Now it is pretty much up to you members as “word-of-mouth” is the best way to spread the word….I will no longer make posts encouraging LURKERS to participate as I have done in the past elsewhere…that never works….so it is what it is as the saying goes….

Dave   An IOATA of good news,,,,Kazemi reopening corruption files on all…….?

Spectra  CDC Says 94% of COVID Deaths Had Other Medical Issues, New Mask Health Study & Israel Attacks Syria

Spectra  https://youtu.be/gNqBWJ7LXFg

John Frank has stated Very accurate intel on the Iraq Dinar:   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bD1oizg6T2c&lc=Ugx9UcLCCLZdY39LYvN4AaABAg

Spectra  94% of Americans who died from COVID-19 had contributing conditions: CDC https://nypost.com/2020/08/31/94-of-americans-who-died-from-covid-19-had-contributing-conditions/

Spectra   Ninety-four percent of Americans who died from COVID-19 had other “types of health conditions and contributing causes” in addition to the virus, according to a new CDC report.

Using provisional data on coronavirus-related deaths from the week ending Feb. 1 through Aug. 22, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention concluded last week that “for 6 percent of the deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned.”

“For deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID-19, on average, there were 2.6 additional conditions or causes per death,” the report said.

Respiratory conditions such as influenza and pneumonia, respiratory failure and respiratory arrest, as well as circulatory conditions such as hypertensive diseases, cardiac arrest and heart

Spectra  failure are on the list.

Other conditions included sepsis, diabetes, renal failure and Alzheimer’s disease.

The counts are based on death certificates, which the agency called “the most reliable source of data.”

However, the provisional data is not yet complete, the counts are not final, and they should not be compared across states, the agency warned.

As of Monday, the US has surpassed 6 million coronavirus cases and 183,000 deaths, Johns Hopkins University statistics show.

Spectra  https://nypost.com/2020/08/31/94-of-americans-who-died-from-covid-19-had-contributing-conditions/

Spectra  https://fox4kc.com/news/new-cdc-report-shows-94-of-covid-19-deaths-in-us-had-underlying-medical-conditions/

Spectra   https://fox4kc.com/news/new-cdc-report-shows-94-of-covid-19-deaths-in-us-had-underlying-medical-conditions/

Spectra  :Whisling:

John Frank has stated  Very accurate intel on the Iraq Dinar: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bD1oizg6T2c&lc=Ugx9UcLCCLZdY39LYvN4AaABAg

xyz  Parliamentary Finance reveals the fate of state employees’ salaries for the coming months https://aynaliraqnews.com/index.php?aa=news&id22=138025

The Parliamentary Finance Committee clarified, on Monday, the fate of employees ’salaries after the end of next September .

Committee member Abdul Hadi Al-Saeedi said that “the external and internal borrowing law voted by the House of Representatives will pass until the end of this year,” noting that “the government has not yet gone towards external loan .”

He added that “the loan will continue until the end of the year, as the government has not used it fully, as a ceiling for loans has been set at $ 5 billion and this cannot be exceeded,” noting that “the revenue generated from oil is not sufficient to meet salaries .”

And the Parliamentary Finance Committee confirmed, earlier, that the general budget for 2020 will be brief and will focus on the operational side, while it indicated that the next budget will be different.

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