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Holly1 says():Karim Jadou Urgent announced the Baghdad operations shut down all entrances to the Foreign Baghdad and just let them out until the visit means ruined
MarineMom says to larrykn():[7:10:14 AM] da58: ABADI DECLARED A STATE OF EMERGENCY…does this give him the power to make the necessary changes?
da58: NOW live https://www.rt.com/on-air/rt-america-air/ STATE OF EMERGENCY
Would anyone be inclined to comment on this?
larrykn says to MarineMom():they are two groups of protester over there, 1 maliki group that were in Parliment on last Tues, and Sadr group which are protecting outside of parliment, the frist group doesn’t want the reforms to happen, the second group does,
that is what is going on over there but the good news is jesus is alive and all is getting done over there , don’t worry about the govenment they will get it done , watch the money that is what we want to see and that is moving forward nicely now 🙂
MarineMom says to larrykn():Thank you for your reply… I am aware of the two sides/dynamics… Would love to know if anyone knows if this gives Abadi the power to make changes unilatterally… maybe we just have to wait and see
Pablo says):Wow, step away from chat for a while and all xxx breaks loose in Iraq.
MarineMom says to Holly1():Thank you… have been watching this unfold this morning… lots going on over there today
Pablo says():I wonder what Abadi is going to do now?
larrykn says to MarineMom():I believe if he has to he can change out the whole parliment in a day, but I don’t think he will have to, the rest of the cabnet will be seated within the next few days and things will get real interesting after that 🙂
MarineMom says to Pablo():I’m wondering if he has the power to impose his reforms due to the state of emergency being declared
Pablo says to MarineMom():That’s what I am wondering too.
MarineMom says to larrykn():Are you aware that session is lifted until May 10th?
Pablo says to MarineMom():I had a feeling that was going to happen.
Pablo says to MarineMom():They won’t go quietly.
larrykn says to MarineMom():didn’t read that yet but we’ll see how that works, I’ve seen them do emergency meeting an get things done a day after they said they wouldn’t meet for 2 weeks time will tell
MarineMom says to larrykn():Parliament to raise its to the tenth of May
April 30, 2016 14:32 It raised the presidency of the Iraqi Council of Representatives, on Saturday, the 27th of the second legislative term of the second legislative session for the year to next Tuesday, (the tenth of May 2016), for lack of quorum, and concern visit the death of Imam Moussa al-Kadhim (AS).
http://burathanews.com/news/291758.html
Hutch says():THERE ARE ARTICLES STATING THE OPPOSITE AS WELL AND BEING PURE DRAMA. SIT BACK AND LET IT ALL SETTLE DOWN…..
larrykn says to MarineMom():like I said I don’t believe everything I read from Iraq
Holly1 says to subgirl():Newsflash …. Abadi East News reporter: I am ordered to allow the demonstrators to enter the Green Zone
Holly1 says to subgirl():Urgent Urgent ……. …….. urgent ……. news about providing Prime Minister Haider al – Abadi ….. resign in the coming hours
tman23 says():The fact is that change in Shia ranks was never going to be easy……. You see in Baghdad a group of Shi’ite militia Hashd al-Shaabi have hoisted the Iranian flag during a massive rally in Baghdad…..
This is the militia supported by Iran and was under the command of Ameri who subsequently reports to Maliki….. They have been in southern Kirkut shooting at Peshmerga……
They have been in Sunni territories killing Sunni villagers…….. Maliki and Jaafari are the heads of the snake…… SURPRISE……… Joe Biden went to Baghdad and Erbil……not to mention that a group of Sunni’s have been in Washington petitioning for Sunni territory……….
Not to mention that the UN and WB are sending Kurdistan 2 billion dollars AS A START (ASAP) with more to come and if it is not possible through Baghdad then they are opening an office in KURDISTAN…………
Pablo says to MarineMom():resign? from what the Daawa party?
futuremoney says to Holly1():this is what I was afraid of…
futuremoney says to Holly1():back to square one…..omg….
larrykn says to Pablo():yes so he can go after Maliki after the cabnet is set
Hutch says to futuremoney():ABADI IS NOT RESIGNING FROM PRIME MINISTER…. HES RESIGNING FROM THE DOWA PARTY
Holly1 says to subgirl():Iraqi satellite channel Iraqiachannel Liked · 1 hr ……. Urgent urgent urgent….
News for providing the Prime Minister Haider al – Abadi ….. resign in the coming hours
Holly1 says to subgirl():go read the comments
subgirl says to Holly1():it is from the Dawa party not as PM !!!!
MarineMom says to tman23():Thank you for the post… yes there are multiple factions of shia militias… one of which is th Mahdi militia (Sadr’s) … Although they are all shia, they will go against each other for power/control
subgirl says to Holly1():ABADI IS NOT RESIGNING FROM PRIME MINISTER…. HES RESIGNING FROM THE DOWA PARTY
larrykn says to Hutch():the thing that gets me is why now, before cabinet is in place an why is Baghdad in a state of emergency now, IMO something is a foot 🙂
Hutch says to larrykn():ARE THEY?
dale says():MOD.larrykyn, Hutch : That’s my understanding.
Hutch says to larrykn():THERE ARE ARTICLES SAYING THE OPPOSITE ALSO
Hutch says to larrykn():HERES A GOOD ONE…
Hutch says to larrykn():United Nations announces the closure of all its offices in the Iraqi capital of Baghdad 30-04-2016 03:37 PM http://www.ikhnews.com/
Hutch says to larrykn():AND THEN …..
Hutch says to larrykn():UN denies closure of its headquarters in Baghdad
Holly1 says to Hutch():(lol) welcome to the delusional iraq:D
subgirl says to Hutch():thank MODHutch!!!! 🙂 appreciate you very much!
watson1 says():hmm what did bgg say confusion just before rv
larrykn says to Hutch():crazy days lol
MarineMom says():Iraq is definitely a crazy place to follow. Thank you everyone for your input and articles
Hutch says():LET THE DUST SETTLE
MarineMom says():US Embassy denies asylum to Iraqi officials based in Baghdad
Saturday April 30, 2016 17:35 LINK
MarineMom says():Here it is on Bloomberg…
Iraq Declares Baghdad Emergency as Protesters Storm Parliament
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-04-30/iraq-declares-bagdhad-emergency-as-protesters-storm-parliament
We are hearing both sides and lets just wait to see what happens!
MarineMom says to subgirl():Agreed, just sharing
CeeCee says():again, GOOD MORNING ALL. TO: anyone… is it thought sadr is trying to usurp abadi and get himself in? i kinda thought he was helping him. & i thought parl was finally insession today to finalize cabinet. this makes no sense… but maybe i missed something … i have much admiration for abadi and he has so much sh*t to deal with.
futuremoney says to CeeCee():could be, but I dont see how that would work. Sadr is a Sunni and a minority in the Parliment, sooo…
BGG says to futuremoney():Uhhhhh – Sadr is NOT A SUNNI. That is inaccurate.
futuremoney says to CeeCee():love that!!!!
larrykn says to CeeCee():there is so much going on today that I don’t know how much is true and how much is smoke, I think its time to set back and watch what happens today, I wouldn’t get to worried about anything at this point, they have not come this far to fail now 🙂
CeeCee says to futuremoney():thanks 🙂 … it wasnt what i or anyone expected to wake up to. lol its 8am here appreciate feedback… going to try to not spill any more coffee when i read stufff
futuremoney says to CeeCee():I am very depressed right now, I know Im selfish…but I am really needing this rv…BAD !
futuremoney says to CeeCee():I guess Im wear my emotion on my sleeve…LOL
futuremoney says to CeeCee():I know there are many people out there just like us…
larrykn says to futuremoney():the one thing I’ve learned over the years because I’m one that has always tried different ways to make money is never count on any of them until the money is in hand. until then live life like you have not invested and wait , I know thats hard but it does keep you sane 🙂
futuremoney says to larrykn():Ive done that…but China ruined my business. Went from 10 employees to 2. Had to sell off equipment at a loss that I had purcheased for the job. Thanks to the gov.. now they want to take everything…now do you see why I need this to happen. No fault of my own..
larrykn says to futuremoney():I understand and I know this is going to happen but I hate to count on anything that you fell will change your life , if it takes longer you get disappointed
eman4u55 says():i just saw a a news clip from iraq of people protesting and tearing down walls in the green zone is this old news or what
larrykn says to eman4u55():no its sadr group and they are doing it now
eman4u55 says():o boy
Romello says():Jubouri MP calls on al-Sadr to withdraw demonstrators from the Green Zone and warns of “state collapse”
4:49:04 p.m. 30.04.2016 | (Voice of Iraq) – Baghdad appealed to the Attorney Haitham al – Jubouri, the Sabbath, the cleric Moqtada al – Sadr to withdraw demonstrators from Baghdad ‘s Green Zone, warning of the “collapse of the state”, while calling for the formation of a new government of national out – of – quota parties.
Jubouri said in a statement that appeals Sadr , ” the withdrawal of the demonstrators from the green Zone for fear of uncontrollable things and the collapse of the state.” he stressed Jubouri , ” the need to seek to form a complete new government of national out – of – quota parties.
larrykn says to CeeCee():I know I have friends like that too lol
Romello says():it was al- Sadr decided on Saturday, resorting to “i’tikaaf” for two months , a rejection of the return of “corruption and the corrupt, “as he emphasized that Prime Minister Haider al – Abadi subjected to” heavy pressure “by wishing quota system.
stormed the protesters Sadrist movement, today, the House of Representatives building in the green dotted Baghdad to protest the lifting of its meeting until next week without a vote on the complete cabinet reshuffle. announced Baghdad operations command, today announced the closure of ports DC completely and let out only.
http://www.sotaliraq.com/newsitem.php?id=329641#ixzz47JvPI3J0
Romello says():Video: a moment to storm the parliament building
16:37:52 30.04.2016 | (Voice of Iraq) – Baghdad
http://www.sotaliraq.com/newsitem.php?id=329639#ixzz47JtdNsqy
Romello says():Green criminal hackers smashing furniture and besieging parliament hall staff
4:27:04 p.m. 30.04.2016 | (Voice of Iraq) – Baghdad besieged criminal hackers Green Zone on Saturday, the House of Representatives staff inside the parliament hall after smashing their furniture and control of all the Parliament buildings.
He said our correspondent in Baghdad , said the demonstrators Sadrist movement who stormed this afternoon, the Green Zone and the parliament building, downtown Baghdad, surrounded the parliament staff after smashing furniture and major constitutional halls.
The reporter added that, protesters fanned out to all buildings and halls of the House of Representatives, while still employees and many of the deputies inside.
http://www.sotaliraq.com/newsitem.php?id=329638#ixzz47Jw5g3WV
Hutch says():I wonder what the Iraqi’s think about the chaos going on in the US? Do they think that this country is about to fall apart with all of the protesting that is going on here. If you watch the videos here, it appears to be so…. people attacking one another and destroying cop cars etc.
Even Trump having to sneak thru baracades makes it look like he’s escaping death on the videos, if taken wrong. Sooooo…… we are looking at the iraqis thinking doom and gloom and they are looking at those crazy americans thinking the same for us.
Romello says to larrykn():No prob.
CeeCee says():good Grief!!
Romello says():Thinking rv sooner than later…lol
eman4u55 says():still that not the usa and that cant be good
Romello says():Added pressure I thought
eman4u55 says():ok am i looking at this the wrong way ??
Romello says():Don’t think Sadr still care too much for US or US presence
tman23 says():FUNNY STUFF HERE…….. YA GOTTA LAUGH
Hutch says():My point here is…. How much are we reading that is just sensationalism?
Romello says to Hutch():Thats what I got
Romello says to Hutch()::D Same building different views. (lol)
BUCK says():did parliment meet at all????
larrykn says():like I said we need to step back and see how all this plays out, its to early to worry about all of this, they have a plan in place , lets see it unfold first and see what shakes 😀
tman23 says():Here is my POINT……….. APRIL SHOWERS BRING MAY FLOWERS……. AND THAT IS THE BEST EXPLANATION I HAVE……….. NOW SIT BACK AND WAIT FOR THEM TO BLOOM……..
Romello says to Hutch():My balcony shows pressure coming from all angles, even from own citizens
Romello says():You go Sadr, I think?:D
BUCK says():did parliment meet at all????
CeeCee says():i read they had met, and then needed to delay an hour to get quorum… so not sure @what point this mass broke out.
Romello says to BUCK():Urgent parliament session postponed to next week
30.04.2016 14:15 {Baghdad: Euphrates News} decided the Presidency of the Council of Representatives, the postponement of the parliamentary session today to next week.
According to a parliamentary source told {Euphrates News} that “the Presidency, adjourned the hearing until next week due to lack of quorum for the contract is completed.”
The House of Representatives has postponed holding its time earlier today , “h”, for lack of a quorum for the Akdha.anthy http://alforatnews.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=115520
Romello says to BUCK():FEAR
BUCK says to Romello():probably more right than we know…
Romello says to BUCK():Don’t think I would of showed up today either.
Pablo says():I’ve been seeing news on IQD team that is saying that parliament has been meeting and they are getting back together later once the PM arrives.
CeeCee says():but its about 648pm there now isnt it?
subgirl says():Folks lets just wait and see ok? Dont jump to any conclusion til we see what happens!! 🙂
larrykn says to CeeCee():people in power and are corrupted in money don’t go away easliy that is what we are seeing now, they knew that was going to happen we just need to relax and let it play out 🙂
Jeff19 says():Masum calls for political blocs to a cabinet reshuffle and the implementation of the reform
Political Since 30/04/2016 18:36 pm (Baghdad time) BAGHDAD – balances News
Called on President Fuad Masum, Saturday, the demonstrators to vacate the parliament building and not compromising its members and staff of public and private property, as demanded Prime Ministers Haider al-Abadi, parliament Saleem al-Jubouri and leaders of parliamentary blocs to conduct the reshuffle desired and “buried” quotas partisan and factional system.
Masum said in a statement received / balances News /, a copy of it, “We call on all our people, especially the demonstrators were to prevail calm and law-abiding and self-restraint and not to prejudice any of the members of the House of Representatives and employees of public and private property and to evacuate the building,”
calling Abadi al-Jubouri and leaders of the blocks to “make a cabinet reshuffle intended and implementation of political and administrative reforms and the fight against corruption, and consider that buried quotas partisan and factional system task no longer be postponed at all.”
The infallible “superfluous victory in the battle against terrorism requires setting the protection of the stability of Iraq and supreme interests and status and prestige in the international community over any other interests, calling on everyone to adhere to the principles of democratic dialogue and the preservation of constitutional life and maintain security and order.”
He called infallible political forces to “double the urgent and serious efforts to solve problems to meet the demands of the people and achieve its interests and improve his living conditions, and to show high sense of national responsibility and put the interests of all Iraqis above any other interests.”
He continued, “We are hoping and trusting that everyone takes into account all of that and strive together for a serious and persistent work on self-control and to provide the right atmosphere for a peaceful work of democratic and constitutional moves forward to reform and preserve the unity of Iraq and its democratic system” .anthy 29 / p 18
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ar&u=http://www.mawazin.net/&prev=search
tman23 says():There will be no Parliament Tuesday…….. That is cancelled……. They will be meeting IMO in Najaf which was designated as the emergency set up for the GOI…..
The roads have been worked on with fence…and high security for the past 4 weeks…….. I posted this several times…… We will see how this plays out……But the announcement will come from Najaf……
Romello says to tman23():Sorry, missed that one.
Romello says to tman23():Tuesday cancelled
larrykn says to tman23():I didn’t see that one this morning
chickadee says():I thought it was allvoted on yesterday? Someone brought in a article that it was
Romello says to tman23():Me either. Brb. Going to look
CeeCee says to larrykn():msnbc reporting on this right now
Romello says():Video .. officials fleeing from the rear doors of the green
http://www.sotaliraq.com/newsitem.php?id=329658#ixzz47K5K6aWt
Romello says to DIGIman1():Video .. number of MPs and their families are leaving across the river to the Karrada http://www.sotaliraq.com/newsitem.php?id=329659#ixzz47K5jgXKB
Romello says to DIGIman1():Video: a moment to storm the parliament building
http://www.sotaliraq.com/newsitem.php?id=329639#ix
rcookie says():DEPOSITORS INSURANCE IMPLEMENTING IN PRIVATE BANKS TO DRIVE CONSUMER CONFIDENCE…OIL LICENSE CONTRACTS UNDER AUDIT…SUPERLATIVE PERFORMANCE IN IMF STAFF MONITORED PROGRAM…AND PREPARATION FOR SBA AND ACCEPTANCE OF ARTICLE VIII OBLIGATIONS….
CABINET RESHUFFLE COMPLETED ON SATURDAY WITH ABADI PRESENT…BIDEN SURPRISE VISIT TO BAGHDAD IS 3RD VISIT BY HIGH RANKING US OFFICIAL THIS MONTH…
LARGEST SHIP IN IRAQI PORT THIS MORNING SINCE 1919…UNWAVERING REGIONAL &INTERNATIONAL SUPPORT FOR IRAQ REFORMS (G7 PENDING MAY MEETING)…ADDED TO INTENSE INTERNAL IRAQ CLERIC PRESSURE FROM SADR…MORE ISIS CASH DESTROYED AND VILLAGES LIBERATED SOUTH OF MOSUL…
rcookie says():As al-Sadr also announced during the press conference, i’tikaaf for two months rejection of quotas and the return of corruption and condemnation for “shortening” Some of the popular classes, and decided to stop political action in all joints of the Sadrist movement, with an exception of political action to form a bloc of “cross-sectarian,” called liberal bloc to boycott sessions “quotas of” parliament.
And raising the Iraqi Parliament Speaker Salim al-Jubouri, on Saturday, the 27th session of the second legislative term of the second legislative year to next Tuesday, (the tenth of May 2016), for lack of a quorum, and concern visit the death of Imam Moussa al-Kadhim is completed (p).
The Presidency of the Council of Representatives on Saturday, decided (30 April 2016), to postpone the hearing the 27 of the second legislative term of the second legislative year, earmarked to host Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi on the reshuffle until one o’clock this afternoon, due to lack of quorum.
With early detection, a political source said on Saturday that the Sadrist movement Liberal bloc decided to boycott the parliamentary session scheduled for today, to host Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi on the reshuffle, in protest against the “partisan quotas” in the selection of the new ministerial cabin.
As announced, Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi, said on Saturday (30 April 2016), for attending the meeting of the House of Representatives allocated for hosting on the reshuffle scheduled for today, if the session.
It was scheduled to see the parliamentary session scheduled to be held on Saturday (30 April 2016), the vote on the decision to consider the city of Baiji, a disaster area, hosting the Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi on the reshuffle, the first reading of the proposed cancellation of the Revolutionary Command Council Resolution Act (dissolved ) No. 213 of 2000,
and the first reading of the proposed cancellation of the Revolutionary command Council resolution Act (dissolved) No. 80 of 2000, and the first reading of the proposed cancellation of the Revolutionary command Council resolution Act (dissolved) No. 481 of 1989.
Referred to the Presidency of the Council of Representatives of Iraq lifted, the first on Thursday, (28 April 2016), the 26th session of the second legislative term of the second legislative year to the day Saturday (30 April 2016), after the formation of a committee to negotiate with the protesters and vote on the request for resignation MP for the coalition of state law Hassan Sinead, and the end of the first reading of two bills and discuss three bills.
rcookie says():Source: A large number of officials leaving the capital through the Baghdad airport
http://translate.google.com/translate?depth=1&hl=en&prev=search&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=ar&u=http://www.faceiraq.com/
rcookie says():Urgent: Demonstrators heading to Baghdad airport to prevent the travel of officials
BAGHDAD – observer news
http://translate.google.com/translate?depth=1&hl=en&prev=search&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=ar&u=http://www.faceiraq.com/
Romello says():UN condemns the use of violence against elected officials and calls for dialogue
30.04.2016 19:05 [Wayne – Baghdad] urged the UN mission in Iraq, the government and political leaders to work together to restore security and to engage in dialogue.
The mission expressed in a statement received by all of Iraq [where] a copy of “grave concern at the developments today in Baghdad, including the storming of the parliament building by protesters after they entered the international zone.”
Condemned ” the use of violence, including against those responsible elected officials, and he urged calm and exercise restraint and respect for the constitutional institutions in Iraq at this critical juncture. ”
Romello says():She called the mission” the government and all political leaders and civil society to work together to restore security immediately and engage in dialogue ensures the implementation of the necessary reforms. ”
and he said it “continues to work from its headquarters in the international Zone in Baghdad, which is in constant contact with the parties until a solution to meet the security requirements for reform.
http://www.alliraqnews.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=36866
rcookie says():Urgent: Fadel Barwari assigned to protect the prime minister building (Details)
30-04-2016 04:45 PM Announced close to the al – Abadi, said on Saturday that Prime Minister Haider al – Abadi gold division commander Fadel Barwari assigned the responsibility to protect the prime minister building.
He said a close associate of al – Abadi told a news source, he said Abadi issued an order to the commander of the gold band Fadel Barwari move towards the Prime Minister ‘s building and tabbed the responsibility to protect the building.
It revealed the source , who asked not to be named, also on the movements of US troops stationed at bases Habbaniyah and al – Assad appointed toward the Green Zone to protect the US embassy building. –
See more at: http://translate.google.com/translate?depth=2&hl=en&prev=search&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=ar&u=http://www.almadarnews.info/index.php%3Fpage%3Darticle%26id%3D10580#sthash.sOnMBSKu.dpuf
Romello says():Urgent president calls Jubouri Abadi and leaders of the blocks for a cabinet reshuffle intended
30.04.2016 18:38 • [Baghdad] President Fuad Masum , called on Parliament Speaker Salim al – Jubouri, Prime Minister Haider al – Abadi, leaders of political blocs to hold ministerial desired modification and implementation of political and administrative reforms and the fight against Alvesad..itba
http://www.alliraqnews.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=36865
rcookie says():APRIL 30, 2016 Iraqi media sources: Moving Abbadi outside the Green Zone to a safe place outside the long declaration of a state of emergency in Baghdad and closing entrances
abadi777 Baghdad (dpa) – An Iraqi television station reported on Saturday that Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi, left his office in the Green Zone to a safe place outside.
He said TV / Covenant / owned by the League of the Shiite movement to the right, “the prime minister Haidar al-Abbadi left his office in the Green Zone to a safe place outside.”
Sources in the Iraqi police on Saturday to declare a state of emergency in Baghdad and closing entrances.
The sources said the German Press Agency (d. B. A) that “the Baghdad Operations Command closed the entrances to Baghdad and taken security measures and imposed a state of emergency in Baghdad.”
She explained, “it was tightening security measures in the Iraqi Central Bank and major banks, especially the area around the Rafidain and Rasheed.”
It showed a leaked image of the protesters detained Shiite Fadhila party bloc leader Ammar Tohme and beat him inside the parliament.
The image was leaked from inside parliament showed hundreds of Sadr’s followers as they were running to the parliament building and shouting “Brothers Sunni and Shiite, and Iraq will not sell” and “with our blood we will redeem Aaarac.”
The pictures showed “the absence of security forces from the scene of the raid were seen demonstrators carrying the Iraqi flag.”
The images showed “overcrowding Parliament buildings demonstrators at home and their deployment in the gardens of the building.”
http://translate.google.com/translate?depth=1&hl=en&prev=search&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=ar&u=http://www.faceiraq.com/
rcookie says to Martha Sue():VERY MUCH CHAOS THIS MORNING…THE ONLY THING CERTAIN…IS THE UNCERTAINTY….THE DUST SEEMS TO BE SETTLING…SO THE NEWS TO COME IN WILL CLARIFY AN LOT OF THE QUESTIONS AND DIRECTION…
Martha Sue says to rcookie():IMHO … it seems these protestors are saying … WE WANT WHAT HAS BEEN PROMISED TO US … WE ARE STRUGGLING … AND WE NEED HELP … AND THEY ARE SICK AND TIRED OF NOT GETTING THINGS FINISHED.
They have lived in the present (unlike us being so far away) with promises that seem to go unfulfilled … and they are DANG ANGRY! Doesn’t make it right … but … they are saying WE WANT ACTION NOW NOW NOW … Is this a correct assumption???
rcookie says to Martha Sue():IN 2 WORDS…REFORM & ACCOUNTABILITY…..
BUCK says to rcookie():which is it////are the protesters that dirupted parliment from the maliki corrupt crew or are the sadr people……seems sadr protestors would have wanted the parliment session to meet…??????
Martha Sue says to rcookie():PROTESTORS … demanding this??? is that what you mean in the 2 words??? I agree totally. and they want it NOW … not when it seems like it is a good time.
BUCK says to Martha Sue():doing well “but i am so confused” lol who is protesting lol
Martha Sue says to BUCK():not sure where the people came from … Sadr
BUCK says to Martha Sue():see i was thinking these protests were caused by corrupt maliki faction…why would sadr want to stop parliment progress….>>>???
rcookie says to BUCK():THE SADR PROTESTORS WANT THE TEHNOCRATIC REFORMS NOW…THE SITTER PROTESTERS ARE OBSTRUCTIONISTS ….AND ARE PULLING OUT ALL STOPS…
TRYING TO REMOVE JABOURI…CREATE & CONDUCT ILLIGITIMATE PARL SESSIONS… PREVENT QUORUM… AND ATTEMP LEGAL FEDERAL COURT CHALLENGES….
Martha Sue says to BUCK():Sadr’s peeps followers were inside or outside the Greenzone … so I would assume they are the ones. HOWEVER … who knows if m has anything to do with this disruption. If he could … you know he would … but this is maybe outside of him. Wish they had gone and gotten him and strung him up … and that possibly could have shown more action required to get this settled.
BUCK says to rcookie():yeper i got that part…but who are the active and more violent protesters disrupting parliment today????/do we know yet????/ thx
Martha Sue says to BUCK():read what rcookie just wrote about it
Josie says():I read that Sadr ordered the storming of the greem zone AFTER it was announced that Parliament decided not to vote on Cabinet replacements Sat. This is something that BGG mentioned last night that he was hearing that the votes could be put off a ‘day or two’. To me, it is all Sadr
bookumdano says to BUCK():The Sadr Protestors may acctually allow Abadi to remove the current MP’s and install a new Caretaker government with the UN’s approval.
Martha Sue says to rcookie():so are the Sadr protestors who peacfully sat before … not the same people charging now. they want reforms now. GOOD FOR EVERYONE … but are the sitter protesters (obstructionists) different people who are jumping in and causing this blow up and making it look like it was Sadr’s peeps who did it?????
rcookie says to Josie():THAT IS EXACTLY AS NEWS REPORTS CLAIM…AND THAT WOMEN WERE ORDERED OUT OF GREEN ZONE PROTESTER CROWD OVER LOUDSPEAKERS…..
rcookie says to Martha Sue():YES THEY ARE…..THEY WANT COMPLETE REFORM ACTION NOR PARTIAL OR PEACEMEAL…
BUCK says():so do we have an explanation as to why parliment decided to delay the voting????
rcookie says to Martha Sue():SADR IS GOING OUT OF HIS WAY TO PUBLICLY STATE NON VIOLENCE AND A RESPECT FOR PUBLIC PROPERTY…
Martha Sue says to rcookie():SO … complete reform action … would mean they finish with the new placements … and get to work on finishing everything??? right??? so … IMHO … wouldn’t Sadr’s peeps who have been sitting just say … CIRCLE THE WAGONS … BAR THE DOORS … AND NO ONE IS LEAVING TILL YOU ARE FINISHED???
rcookie says to Martha Sue():SOME OF THE STATEMENTS FROM MASUM WERE THAT THE SADR PROTESTOR CROWDS CAN NOT BE ALLOWED TO THREATEN OR INFLUENCE THE CONDUCTING OF REGULAR PARLIAMENT PROCEDURES INCLUDING THE CABINET RESHUFFLE….
Martha Sue says to rcookie():let’s just pray that Sadr gets his wagons settled and people backed down … and then the rest of the peeps who still make trouble can be detained by the law.
Josie says():Not sure why people are so suprised or wondering who is behind it. Sadr has been saying (thretening) for months that protestors will ‘storm the Green Zone” if changes dont come. To me, that is why his followers have organized at the entrance to the Green Zone on several occassions to show they are serious but have always stood down per Sadr. Sadr just finally followed through with what he has been telling GOI for months. Seems they (Sadrists) went out of their way not to be violent. Just a HUGE message IMO
Martha Sue says to rcookie():WOWZERS …
Josie says():(threatening)
rcookie says to Martha Sue():Masum calls for calm and a cabinet reshuffle intended
04/30/2016 (Independent) .. Ahab President Fuad Masum, the demonstrators who stormed the day the House of Representatives building and threatened to storm official buildings and other non-official in the Green Zone in Baghdad, to give priority to calm and law-abiding and self-restraint and not to prejudice any of the members of the House of Representatives and the staff of public and private property and to evacuate the building ,
He also called in a statement issued by the heads of the ministers, MPs and leaders of parliamentary blocs to hold office reshuffle desired and implementation of political and administrative reforms and the fight against corruption and consider that buried quotas partisan and factional task system no longer be postponed at all.
The infallible superfluous victory in the battle against terrorism requires setting the protection of the stability of Iraq and supreme interests and status and prestige in the international community over any other interests, calling on everyone to adhere to the principles of democratic dialogue and the preservation of constitutional life and maintain security and order.
And it demanded urgent political forces to redouble efforts and seriousness to solve problems to meet the demands of the people and achieve its interests and improve his living conditions, and to show high sense of national responsibility and put the interests of all Iraqis above any other interests.
He expressed hope that everyone takes into account all of that and strive together for a serious and persistent work on self-control and providing the right atmosphere for a peaceful, democratic and constitutional work is moving ahead to reform and preserve the unity of Iraq and its democratic system. (End)
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BUCK says to Josie():appears to be the case….i guess the violence and relocation of parliment meslead me…i still think we want What sadr wants at this time…
rcookie says to Martha Sue():”NOT TO PREDJUDICE ANY OF THE HOR MEMBERS”…MAINTAIN SECURITY & ORDER…SELF RESTRAINT RESPECT PUBLIC & PRIVATE PROPERTY AND STAFF..
Martha Sue says to rcookie():yep … saw that!
Josie says to BUCK():Well there may be some near term alignment on what we seek and what he is looking for, but safe to Sadr is not to be embraced and is in no way a friend to the USA
Martha Sue says to rcookie():I’m all for someone standing their ground for what they believe is just and due … and they are doing that. Just caught off guard by the storming of the building.
BUCK says to Josie():i am very aware of that, which is why i said….at this time … lol
Josie says():As BGG has been saying for months (years) the status quo is our enemy, and we now have anything but status quo for awhile now…
rcookie says():Jubouri: We will not hesitate to choose what spare the country from falling into chaos Patton PM: 08: 52: 30/04/2016 Khandan
Khandan – The president of the Iraqi Council of Representatives Saleem al-Jubouri that the events plaguing the country today require urgent pause keeps the home in difficult circumstances, who is going through.
Jubouri said in a statement, that “the legislative institution and its value reflect the will of the Iraqis, and that the MPs are the people representatives and their servants, and that the attack on the members and staff of this institution is an attack on the prestige of the state that comes through respect for what these institutions of real achievements.” .
Jubouri and expressed “understanding of the need for reforms and that they best way to convince the Iraqi people,” calling for “peaceful adopt practices that maintain the state property and souls.”
Jubouri also called “mass leaders of all, first and foremost Mr. Muqtada al-Sadr, that they may have urgent pause, to guide the movement of the demonstrators do not allow to exploit to the detriment of our beloved Iraq.”
He said al-Jubouri, saying, “What concerns the safety of Iraq and the preservation of the state” and expressed his “conviction that everything is only our country for compensation, which is going through a serious impasse and we have transgressed.”
He stressed Jubouri that “the preservation of the political process and the duty of utmost necessity”, warning that “Daash awaiting the loose things to expand again, and we must not allow them to do so.”
Jubouri said that “follows from his office with all the leaders of the current situation and the developments of events,” However, he noted that “we will not hesitate to choose what fit the situation, and sparing the country from falling into a furnace of chaos.”
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Josie says to BUCK():Ha. I am sure you knew, just overstating the obvious
BUCK says():well i hate that the progress could not be made as scheduled three weeks ago… but i am happy that “things are happening” it will get us to where we want to go…
BUCK says to Josie():no prob..it is worth remembering….
cjquade54 says():I believe there will be more violence if they don’t complete this quick.
cjquade54 says():I hope they get it done before things really get out of hand
cjquade54 says():just stating the obvious
Elane says():Tweet: @HaiderAlAbadi: PM Al-Abadi confirms security situation in Baghdad is under control and calls on demonstrators to return to designated protest areas
BUCK says():if i remember correctly, it seemed maliki and crew were against the raising value of the dinar…..i wonder what effect it would have on all this protest and delay if they raised the value now….would that give the corrupt less to fight for or make them more angry???? i know their mostly fighting for their “lives” so it may not matter……just thinking outloud .
localcats says():well todays news is not boring thats for sure
BUCK says to localcats():for sure. i am just curious as to why abadi felt like he needed to delay today’s parliment…never read as to why …..????
localcats says():sadar is pushing a major point
BUCK says():i hope he keeps pushing hard until i get paid lol lol
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