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chattels: And then there were five ( 5 ) – Kurdish lawmaker: Parliament did not vote on the dismissal of Roandzi
http://wealthwatch.world/showthread.php?tid=4126&pid=13545#pid13545
chattels: Parliament: today’s session saw the vote on the five ministers technocrats out of 10 and Legal expert confirms the constitutionality of the parliamentary session
http://wealthwatch.world/showthread.php?tid=4126&pid=13545#pid13545
chattels: Some downward movement in the Market Price reported by the CBI, 1282 to 1274, with volume staying about the same.
http://www.cbi.iq/index.php?pid=CurrencyAuctions
chattels: Loveday Morris @LovedayM Sadrist Kadhim al Issawi to crowd after part reshuffle: “It’s only a partial change, it doesn’t satisfy us but we accept it as a first step”
chattels: Sadr confirms to continue protests until they achieve reform and warns of procrastination
chattels: the cleric Moqtada al – Sadr, to continue calling for popular protests and demonstrations until they “achieve full and comprehensive reform.”
chattels: Read Sadr’s complete statement at http://wealthwatch.world/showthread.php?tid=4318&pid=13548#pid13548
chattels: Sadr calls for 48 hour halt on Baghdad protests
chattels: ” Protesters in Baghdad halted their rally on Wednesday upon a request from prominent Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr, who gave the Iraqi Prime Minister 48 hours to re-announce his cabinet.”
chattels: ” …………. the protesters left Tahrir Square and Baghdad’s Green Zone as Sadr gave Iraqi Prime Minister, Haider al-Abadi, an ultimatum to re-announce his cabinet in the coming 48 hours.”
chattels: http://wealthwatch.world/showthread.php?tid=4318&pid=13548#pid13548
chattels: US State Department expresses concern about the events of Tuz
chattels: said deputy spokesman of the US State Department, Mark Toner, in a press statement about his country ‘s position on the list between the Peshmerga and popular mobilization forces , tensions in the district of Tuz. And “watching the situation closely , ” adding that the clashes between the peshmerga and popular crowd had become ” a place of concern to us.”
chattels: http://wealthwatch.world/showthread.php?tid=4555&page=2
chattels: ” the protesters deputies have completed their sit -in they are in the process of the formation of the opposition bloc in the parliament, as well as filing a complaint to the Federal Court no legal existence parliament Speaker Salim al – Jubouri and the presidency on the head of the legislature. ”
http://wealthwatch.world/showthread.php?tid=4540&pid=13554#pid13554
Doug_W: how’s “C” today?
chattels: ‹@Doug_W› Hopeful and optimistic against all better judgment and prior experience, and you ?
chattels: Parliamentary opposition is a form of political opposition to a designated government, particularly in a Westminster-based parliamentary system. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opp…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opposition_(parliamentary)
chattels: Official Opposition, is usually the largest parliamentary opposition party in the House of Commons or a provincial legislative assembly that is not in government, either on its own or as part of a governing coalition. This is usually the second-largest party in a legislative house, although, in certain unusual circumstances, it may be a third or fourth party or even the largest party.
The Official Opposition is viewed as the caucus tasked with keeping the government in check. It is also generally viewed as the alternative government or “government in waiting”. The Official Opposition maintains a shadow cabinet, with the Leader of the Official Opposition at its head, of Members of Parliament (MPs) and Senators who often have the same portfolios as actual ministers.
The spokesperson for each portfolio is known as an opposition critic. Thus, in the event the government loses the confidence of the House or the Official Opposition party wins a general election, the party is ready to become the government. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Off…
chattels: ” …………. in the event the government loses the confidence of the House or the Official Opposition party wins a general election, the party is ready to become the government.
chattels: http://wealthwatch.world/showthread.php?tid=4540&pid=13561#pid13561
Doug_W: ok so………….
Doug_W: hmmmmmmm………….
OOTW: XXX AND HERE I WAS HOPING THAT MALIKI WOULD HAVE BEEN SO UPSET, THAT HE ENTERED PARLIAMENT WITH A MACHINE GUN AND THEY ARRESTED AND HANGED HIS *XX
OOTW: CHATTELS THIS IS INTERESTING INFO YOU HAVE PLACED IN HERE, BUT STILL THE GOI HAS TO ACHIEVE A CLEAR MAJORITY TO DISSOLVE PARLIAMENT
OOTW: ACCDNG TO THE CONSTITUTION
OOTW: SO AGAIN….AS ALWAYS…..WE WAIT
Doug_W: does that start with an “A” OOTW ?
OOTW: INDEED IT DOES DOUG
OOTW: still, the news is oddly quiet, even on twitter
OOTW: from what i can gather, the peshmerga is still protecting the parliament building
OOTW: Federal legislative branch consists of the House of Representatives and the Federation Council. Section I: the House of Representatives
Tootsie: Whee – CBI market rate ios 1274 today ~ down 8 from yesterday, keep it going Pweeezzzz
Tootsie: GM and see ya later – have to run
OOTW: Article (63): First, define the rights and privileges of the Speaker and his deputies and members of the council, by law.
Second: A. A member of the House of Representatives enjoys impunity that covers the opinions he expresses during the Council is in session, nor be sued before courts for this.
B shall not be arrested on the member during the legislative term unless he is accused of a felony, and the consent of the members of an absolute majority to lift his immunity or if caught red-handed in a felony.
C may not be captured on the member outside the legislative term unless he is accused of a felony, and with the consent of the President of the House of Representatives to lift his immunity or if caught red-handed in a felony.
OOTW: immunity or if caught red-handed in a felony. Article (64): First, dissolve the House of Representatives, by an absolute majority of its members, at the request of one-third of its members or a request from the Prime Minister and with the approval of the President, it may not be dissolved during the period in question Prime Minister.
Second, invite the President of the Republic, when the dissolution of the House of Representatives for a general election in the country no later than sixty days from the date of dissolution, is the Council of Ministers in this case have resigned, and continues to run everyday.
OOTW: TRANSITIONAL PROVISIONS FROM THE CONSTITUTION COME INTO PLAY ****AFTER THE GOVT HAS BEEN OFFICIALLY DISSOLVED BY A CLEAR MAJORITY VOTE
OOTW: Chapter II [Transitional provisions] Article (132):
OOTW: SO WHAT I WANT TO POINT OUT IS THAT EVEN IF MALIKI HAS OFFICIALLY , ACCDNG TO THE CONSTITUTION ESTABLISHED A ONE THIRD MAJORITY WHICH HAS PRESENTED TO THE PARLIAMENT A MOTION TO DISSOLVE THE GOVT
OOTW: THERE STILL HAS TO BE A CLEAR MAJORITY VOTE TO CARRY OUT THE MOTION
OOTW: SO WHILE WE HAVE MALIKI’S CREW/NAY SAYERS TRYING TO DISSOLVE THE GOVT BECAUSE THEY DON’T WANT TO LOSE THEIR PAY OR INFLUENCE, THERE WILL BE MORE MEMBERS WHO ALSO WANT TO KEEP THEIR JOBS AS MP’S AND SO WILL SUPPORT ABADI’S SEATING OF NEW TECHNOCRATS
OOTW: EVEN IF MALIKI GETS ALL THE WAY TO THE SUPREME JUDICIARY WITH THIS, AS IN THE PAST (RE MALIKI’S “OVERTHROW” TO ATTAIN THE PM’SHIP AGAIN, WHEN ABADI WAS PLACED) I HAVE A VERY HARD TIME SEEING MAHMOUD OR ANY HEAD JUDGE, YIELDING TO THE STATE OF LAW, WHEN THEY DIDN’T (BEHIND THE SCENES) WHEN ABADI TOOK THE PM’SHIP
OOTW: THE PEOPLE ARE ALREADY FURIOUS THAT MAHMOUD STILL SITS IN THE SJC
OOTW: THIS IS A VERY TENNUOUS GAME – BUT MALIKI WILL NOT GO DOWN YET
OOTW: HE LOST HIS PM’SHIP, HE LOST HIS VP’SHIP, IT’S A MIRACLE HE RE TOOK HIS POST AS HEAD OF THE SLC , A LAST DITCH EFFORT TO PROTECT HIS IMMUNITY
OOTW: AND HE WILL NOT WANT TO LOSE THAT
OOTW: SO WHILE WE HAVE MALIKI’S CREW/NAY SAYERS TRYING TO DISSOLVE THE GOVT BECAUSE THEY DON’T WANT TO LOSE THEIR PAY OR INFLUENCE, ***OR THEIR IMMUNITY ****THERE WILL BE MORE MEMBERS WHO ALSO WANT TO KEEP THEIR JOBS AS MP’S AND SO WILL SUPPORT ABADI’S SEATING OF NEW TECHNOCRATS
OOTW: THATS MY HUMBLE OPINION ON THE MATTER
OOTW: IF I FIND ANYTHING WORTH COMMENTING ON LATER, I WILL RETURN..NOW OFF TO WORK …HUGS
Wheresmyrv?: Great summary thanks OOTW 😉
chattels: I thought Mr. Maliki was ” GONE ” or at least according to the guru pundits ? !
Ononotagain: April 27, 2016 – Prime Minister Haider al – Abadi pledged the rest of the cabinet reshuffle during the next two days, noting that al – Abadi confirmed his intention to choose the heads of independent bodies of technocrats after the completion of the reshuffle. ,
Said the information office of the Council in a statement, he said that the Prime Minister thanked MPs to vote on the cabinet reshuffle as part of a comprehensive reform, and pledged the rest of the cabinet reshuffle during the next two days,
indicating that al – Abadi stressed his determination to choose the heads of independent bodies of technocrats after the completion of the reshuffle. the statement added that al – Abadi stressed that the reshuffle an important step for the country ‘s stability and cooperation to carry out reforms for the benefit of the Iraqi people and to communicate with the world and international financial institutions, pointing out that it expressed concern over the attempts to disrupt the House of Representatives….
http://www.iraqnr.com/Home/?p=3698
Doug_W: this is fun to watch unfold
OOTW: Informed political sources, on Wednesday, Prime Minister Haider al – Abadi told those close to him think that he resign from the Dawa Party , which is headed by president of a coalition of law Nuri al – Maliki. The sources said in a press statement,
what has been achieved in a partial cabinet reshuffle that took place in spite of al – Maliki, adding that al – Abadi will begin after the completion of the process of cabinet reshuffle to open the files of corruption previous government.
OOTW: “Abadi will begin after the completion of the process of cabinet reshuffle to open the files of corruption previous government.”
05:56:36 PM] Doug_W: very interesting!!
chattels: Kirk H. Sowell @UticaRisk 1h1 hour ago To see Iraqi MPs acting like a bunch of 14-yr-olds who lost a student body election, start min 15: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kL1N9kAu-I4
chattels: Kirk H. Sowell @UticaRisk 1h1 hour ago Amazing to see adults act like this. If they have the 165 votes to defeat their opponents, they could exercise that right.
chattels: Kirk H. Sowell @UticaRisk 1h1 hour ago The professionalism of Salim al-Jiburi has been amazing. His province occupied by Shia militias, he’s still worked w Shia leaders.
chattels: Kirk H. Sowell @UticaRisk 1h1 hour ago Then a group of MPs who are surrogates for Maliki, Allawi and Sadr try to stage an illegal takeover of parliament.
chattels: Parliament session for tomorrow without voting on the rest of the government Abadi
http://www.alliraqnews.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=36623
chattels: spokesman for the Prime Minister ‘s Office announced that Prime Minister Haider al – Abadi was determined to complete the cabinet reshuffle soon. He said in a statement that al – Abadi ” is determined to complete the reshuffle as soon as possible file and move on to change the heads of independent bodies and agencies and special grades.”
http://www.alliraqnews.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=36624
chattels: ” ……………. to complete the reshuffle as soon as possible ………….”
chattels: House sitters destroyed the plants of public money to the parliament broke the sound bodies and paintings http://www.alliraqnews.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=36540
chattels: Zebari submit his resignation to Ebadi and the latter rejected
Read more: http://www.sotaliraq.com/newsitem.php?id=329181#ixzz474MlpaQ8
chattels: 04.27.2016 | (Voice of Iraq) – ” Twilight News revealed in the Kurdistan Alliance member of the Council of Representatives of Iraq, on Wednesday, for the finance minister in the Iraqi government , Hoshyar Zebari , submitted his resignation to Prime Minister Haider al – Abadi, but the latter refused to accept the resignation.
The MP Ashwaq dry Zebari already and the feet of resignation to al – Abadi, but the latter refused to accept it , citing Abadi position that Zebari has good relations with international banks, so it will remain in his post as finance minister. comes dry remarks one day after the ministerial changes announced in the government – Abadi, which included so far five Ministries to be completed in the Thursday session, those changes did not ministries occupied by the ministers include the Kurds so far.”
chattels: Will Abadi resign from his party?
chattels: BAGHDAD, Iraq — Iraqi Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi is seeking to form a government of independent technocrats away from the quotas system, the political process that Iraq has grown accustomed to over the past 13 years. Under the system, the political positions are divided according to the quotas distributed among the main components of the country — Sunnis, Shiites and Kurds.
However, the steps that the prime minister is taking in forming the government of independent technocrats has faced obstacles, most notably political and popular demands for him to leave the Islamic Dawa Party with which he is affiliated.
Read more: http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2016/04/iraq-abadi-resignation-government-technocrat-party.html#ixzz474OeynbG
chattels: MP for the Kurdish Change bloc, MP Risan Sheikh, told Al-Monitor, “Abadi intends to form a government of technocrats, and this is a positive step toward reform, but it is difficult for Abadi to head this government as long as he insists on remaining affiliated with the Dawa Party. This is a fallacy and a negative point against the democratic political process.”
Read more: http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2016/04/iraq-abadi-resignation-government-technocrat-party.html#ixzz474P28eJb
chattels: One of the protesters at Tahrir Square, Suad Ali, told Al-Monitor, “Iraqis are protesting to demand Abadi to resign from the Dawa Party and to set an example for a government of independent technocrats. If he stays affiliated with the party, I do not see how he could be able to positively head the government or even obtain political and popular support.
A technocratic government should be headed by a person who has no affiliation with any party. His sense of belonging and loyalty should only be to Iraq so that he can [properly] serve the Iraqi people.”
Read more: http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2016/04/iraq-abadi-resignation-government-technocrat-party.html#ixzz474PGKfMO
chattels: Without a party / political bloc affiliation it seems to me that Abadi undermines his chances for a second term.
chattels: Article 78 of the Iraqi Constitution points out that the president shall assign the candidate ( Prime Minister ) of the largest parliamentary bloc.
chattels: Ihsan al-Shammari, a political analyst and head of the think tank Iraqi Centre for Political Thought, opines that “the demands for Abadi to resign from his party are part of the struggle and political revenge between parties that do not want to leave the partisan, sectarian and nationalistic quotas system and are still holding onto the power and its luster.”
