Zig’s Place Chatroom News Saturday Evening 10-15-22
NORVÂ Sparky How are you going to reval 82 trillion dinar? lol That would be 2.5 times the total US debt at 30 trillion.
Sparky  … I personally think the PTB in Iraq are happy with the status qou ..
NORVÂ Â Sparky of course it is.
NORVÂ Â many years ago I met a vet who was in Iraq.. He told the outline tribes all counterfeited the dinar. Had no reason to use banks and paid each other within the tribe with the fake currency. It was fine as long as the dinar was used with the tribe.
butterfly  Interesting conversation. Lets just say that the RV has happened but there are two countries still holding up the RV to happen to those two countries. Would your opinions change then?
NORVÂ Â That needs to be all cleaned up before they ever could consider international dealings.
wdave1Â Â My only concern when I first found a chat room was to ask people to keep this to themselves. Lose your own money.
NORVÂ Â butterfly There is no RV. Come to me when you can explains how they could RV with 82 trillion dinar.
Zig  wdave1 : Well we don’t advise anyone to buy any currency
Sparky  Zig … no risk, no reward …
butterfly  NORV did I mention Iraq?
wdave1  Zig Someone brought everyone into this.     Many someones.
NORVÂ Â butterfly fantasy
Zig  :Nonsense:
butterfly  NORV ???
NORVÂ Â butterfly The idea of a significant RV
Zig  wdave1 : True….people brought others in….I did not
butterfly  wdave1 there was article years back that said keep buying the dinar, you are helping Iraq.
NORVÂ Â It goes against the principals of the central bank
NORVÂ Â butterfly Of course..they needed dollars for reserves. So any chance they could to sell dinar for dollars was good for them
NORVÂ Â That does not mean they are going to magically reward you for buying dinar lol
Zig  LOL
butterfly Amazing that people are only focusing on the dinar.
Zig  Do you believe in magic??…..Poof you’re swimming in :$$$:
Sparky  NORV … steady growth makes sense, after the hurdles of the current regime are overthrown … many in Iraq are young and smart …
NORVÂ Â It is my hope eventually Iraq will reward those who hold dinar. Not by a RV, but by the success of their economy. When the economy grows so does the dinar via float
NORVÂ Â Zig lol
Zig  Sparky : Steady and inching along like a snail….
NORVÂ Â Zig Dubai’s economy took off
NORVÂ Â Think they built Dubai in 10-15 years
Sparky  … I think things could move swiftly with the right people in charge …
NORVÂ Â Iraq needs to take a page out of their playbook
butterfly  Things are happening, just stay the course.
Zig  The right people are a scarcity Sparky
Zig  Too many of the old guard remain Sparky
butterfly  Exposure is being brought forth. Stay the course.
Zig  Hurry up, will ya!!!…..
NORVÂ Â The problem is that even the new younger politicians start out with intentions and over time see how the old corrupt do it and want the same, So no change.
Zig  NORV : Yeah
butterfly  Stay the course, things are happening.
Zig  BS
Sparky NORV … again, you’re making too much sense …
Zig Sparky : Aggravating that he makes so much sense
Sparky  Zig … yup …
NORVÂ Â I will begin to get excited when I see parliament pass the important laws that have been stalled for years.
butterfly  You will be excited. Stay the course.
NORVÂ Â There are like 20 stalled economic laws that will encourage investment
Zig  NORV : I know…nothing will happen until they pass those laws….investors need protections. etc
Sparky  … Iran has some major Shiite going on, maybe reflect on our speculation … Maliki = Iran …
NORVÂ Â gotta go. Have some Pizza today :Cooking: :Pizza:
butterfly  Be prepared changes are coming.
Sparky  butterfly … my bank account could use a significant boost …
butterfly  Sparky prepare for changes.
Sparky  … the only constant is change … favorable, of course
Sparky Zig … lightweight …
butterfly  Sparky new but favorable
Sparky butterfly … new and favorable are what I look forward to … the wealth is there, when it will be shared with the people of Iraq is my question …
PM butterfly  Sparky if you go up and read what I’ve said, I did not mention the RV of the dinar.
Sparky  butterfly … Be prepared changes are coming. …
butterfly  Sparky start where I came in and you are a smart man, can figure it out.
Sparky  … in my understanding, any change in the value of any currency is a re valuation … in milli seconds on the FX …
Sparky  … currency flows like water, I think that’s where it gets its name … velocity as Breitling said …
Sparky  … usually small increments … adding or decreasing value …
Dave  How are you going to reval 82 trillion dinar? lol That would be 2.5 times the total US debt at 30 trillion.??????????????????????Again…..and yet again 82 T dinar equals 50 billion usd……how could ever equal 2,5 x the US debt at 30 Trillion usd…..???????? NORV…invest in a calculator!
Dave  If this dont make SENSE…..I be a MORON…….. or i be missing the boat….
Zig  Dave : Kap probably meant at 1:1
Dave  Zig HOW…. No RV ….EVER!
Sparky  … just went up 30 dinars recently …
Dave  wippy…….ooo3 cents less thyan that…
Sparky  Dave … a positive movement …
Dave  hehe…a pip not even
Sparky   … I recall Shabs doing 4 pips … 1170 to 1166 … just before he got kicked out of the country by Maliki …
Dave  4 dinar at .00086
Sparky  … Shab’s was testing … imo …
Dave  testing .00o86 on the usd…lol 1459 iqd to 1 usd……4 dinar squat
Sparky  … to watch the escapades of Maliki … USA set him up like Sadam …
Dave  Iraq did better economically with Saddam
Sparky  … GHB set them all up when he was head of the CIA back in the day … ask Tebow …  Dave … He controlled Iran …… at least they were afraid of him as the Iraqi Iran war went on
Dave  7 yrs or more war with Iran
Sparky  … that vacuum allowed the USA and Maliki …
Dave soon followed 1 gulf war….then 2nd,,,,,Iraq gets bombed into the Stone Age……been stuck there since — at least 800 Trillion USD…..went missing since Maliki
Sah  Dave I don’t think it was in the trillions but the billions for sure.
Dave  Dave oops yes Billions…….sounding like Kap with that post…lol
Sah  US was trading them US dollars in exchange for dinar at an unequal rate that later they would settle up with those dinar to buy oil at a lower rate. US has a pile in their despository.
Sah so that story goes…
Dave heard US holding 30 TRILLION !QD
Sah  Maliki had the US dollar in a big vault and took some for himself and paid bribes to important people and others walked in and took. Billions unaccounted for.
Dave  HUGE vault…..
Butterfly  “The Prime Minister agreed to our request relieving us of our duties as the acting Ministry of Finance.” Abdul-Jabbar, the current Oil Minister, said on Twitter.
He pointed out that the Finance Ministry’s Investigation provides formal proof that a “specific group” stole 3.7 trillion Iraqi dinars (2.5 billion dollars) from taxes revenues of Rafidain Bank.
Dave  butterfly Yeah and the Sudanese was head of the Integrity commission….
Dave  betcha he has a few IQD to spare
Sah  butterfly At least the theft is showing up because banks are now digitized there and the theft can be tracked and found. Old school I think still thinks it is the manual way and they will not get caught. A lot of fudging that is too big to hide.
butterfly  Sah agree
Dave Sah hear that fewer than 30% of Iraqi’s have bank accounts Still…..
Sah  Dave Now that the accounts are insured a few months back it has been steadily growing. It was not safe or insured before to bank money. Especially when ISIS was taking over banks.
Dave more banks in my small city than all of IRAQ
Sah Iraq right now is the fastest growing economy in the middle east. At the rate they are going now they are said to be named the top one in 2023. Very important for our dinar.
Dave  Sah ….and doing it with little foreign investments
Sah  Dave They have been investing in foreign investments. They have been working with bankers from the UK.
Dave  Big Oil……absent in Iraq
Sparky  … Big oil dosn’t like kickbacks… pay to play …
Dave No foreign investment protection laws passed yet
butterfly The Secretary-General of the Islamic Dawa Party, Nuri al-Maliki, affirmed: The next government will not be a gift, but rather a constraint and responsibility on the necks of those who oppose it.
In a speech commemorating the founding of the Dawa Party and the birth of the pure imams, he said: It is not a shame to disagree, but the shame is that we do not agree and we are all under the roof of the constitution.
Al-Maliki added: Completing the constitutional benefits represents the decision of all authentic Iraqis, and we are on the cusp of forming a new government, which is the result of the tireless work of the people’s representatives.
He explained: We want the next government to be serviceable and restore the prestige of the state, and it will be an opportunity for those who can achieve and be up to the responsibility.
Al-Maliki said: The next government has difficult files in front of it in light of the general decline in services, and we want it to provide electricity, housing, work and services.
He pointed out that the treatment of slums is to provide an alternative, not to impose rents, or a complex, or difficulty in solving most problems, especially the agriculture and water crisis, and we will support the government and will not abandon it and will hold it accountable at the same time.
butterfly  The management of the Iraqi Airways Company announced that its financial revenues increased during the month of September by more than 51 billion dinars.
The company stated, “It achieved a net profit rate of more than 23 billion dinars, which is the highest percentage achieved by the national carrier in years.
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